Got to be honest here, Nvidia CEO seems very salty. Would he be saying that if nvidia tech was inside PS5 or XBOXX? Hell no. For two generations now AMD has been the choice for Sony and Microsoft.
Don't just look at the numbers folks because it's all about optimization.
You guys do understand that you can't compare console and pc hardware parts right ? If I built a pc in spring/summer year 2005 for $399 retail dollars I would not have been able to play GTA 5 as well as my 2005 xbox360 premium did in 2013. A console is literally optimized to do games. PCs not so much. Equal console hardware vs equivalent pc hardware = console win. There are tons of examples of this over gaming history if you look back in time at what the consoles did. Obviously the big difference is you are stuck with a console (for the most part) where as time goes on you can upgrade PCs when much better stuff is out. Of all people you guys on this site should know that many consoles through much of gaming history were sold at $ losses (sometimes in the hundreds) I dont think pc hardware parts company could ever do that and stay in business lol. You know the whole idea with hardware is to sell it at a profit.
You know the CEO's are related right?
| gameringapk said: You guys do understand that you can't compare console and pc hardware parts right ? If I built a pc in spring/summer year 2005 for $399 retail dollars I would not have been able to play GTA 5 as well as my 2005 xbox360 premium did in 2013. |
Well, it would have been able to play GTA 5 in 2013 better than most 2005 Xbox360 Premiums (because most of them RRoD'ed until then 
| HollyGamer said: Jason hwang are jealous to AMD that they dont dont provide GPU for Google, Apple, Sony and Microsoft and loose billion dollar LOL |
RTG actually loses money, though, while Nvidia is a 100 billion dollar company that has multiple GPGPU contracts with far higher margins than AMD gets. That, 80% of the consumer GPU market and, for the first time ever, over 50% of the yearly console market with the Switch.
haxxiy said:
RTG actually loses money, though, while Nvidia is a 100 billion dollar company that has multiple GPGPU contracts with far higher margins than AMD gets. That, 80% of the consumer GPU market and, for the first time ever, over 50% of the yearly console market with the Switch. |
Well action speak louder actually, by saying a max Q GPU better then next gen console speak the other way around. Why would he said that if he is not salty LOL.
CGI-Quality said:
Not really going overboard, it's using Max Turbo technology (something consoles do, but differently, and they never come any where near 4.0 nor with more than 8 cores). Also, there's a big difference between 4.10GHz and 3.2GHz (console rumored) clock speeds. Can't just write these things off as non factors, because they are some of many reasons why the PC generally stomps consoles in a number of areas. As for 'coded to the metal', that's a statement that has always been thrown towards PC (laptop or otherwise), and much of the time, it doesn't mean what people want it to. The PC looks/performs better, despite those zillion configurations (PCs weaker than consoles may not, but they too are few and far between more often than not). You can't just code to the metal and 'edge out' an advantage. More to it than that. Thus, you'd have to know the specs of these devices before proclaiming they will beat out a Notebook of that caliber. |
We re talking about a intel cpu inside a low powered laptop.
Intel i7 10510U has a Max boost of 4.9ghz, but its base clock speed is 1.8ghz when its running max load with 8 cores (15-25watts).
The fact that it can run a single core, for a short time at 4.9ghz doesnt do much while gameing.
Where most of the time, it ll probably be sub 3ghz.
Your the one saying theres a big differnce between 4.1ghz and 3.2ghz... yes there is, if its sustained speeds.
Which it isnt, when its max turbo, and intel in laptops.
"As for 'coded to the metal', that's a statement that has always been thrown towards PC (laptop or otherwise), and much of the time, it doesn't mean what people want it to."
Because people with desktop PCs, can throw 250-300watt GPUs onto 200watts CPUs, and overpower any advantage codeing to metal will bring, by brute force. Same isnt true about laptops, which is what this thread is about.
Tbh it would not surprise me with how fast tech moves for example back when X1 and PS4 released they were essentially mid level in comparison to non console tech which was already exploring 4k back then so continued progression at the same rate could lead to what Nvidia claims.
| Wyrdness said: Tbh it would not surprise me with how fast tech moves for example back when X1 and PS4 released they were essentially mid level in comparison to non console tech which was already exploring 4k back then so continued progression at the same rate could lead to what Nvidia claims. |
RTX 2080 Max - Q is not even comparable to RTX 2060 desktop. Radeon RX 5700 is equal to RTX 2060 and, RX 5700 XT >> RX 5700. PS5 and Xbox are already informed to have better GPU then RX 5700 XT or minimum equal to RX 5700 XT, not counted for the CPU itself (which is equal to Ryzen 3700), and overall performance/optimization close to metal.
On top of that The laptop price is around 2500 USD - 3000 USD , while console price are around 399 USD, so Jason Hwang is just selling garbage over price weak Laptop that will be replace by their own GPU lineup in 2020 with RTX 30XX series .
If you are new to gaming you will probably fall for their lies, but if you have experience in PC gaming you will understand Laptop GPU is super weak and super expensives.
| deskpro2k3 said: Got to be honest here, Nvidia CEO seems very salty. Would he be saying that if nvidia tech was inside PS5 or XBOXX? Hell no. For two generations now AMD has been the choice for Sony and Microsoft. Don't just look at the numbers folks because it's all about optimization. |
Even without Optimization (which is the bread and butter of close system like consoles /dedicated handheld) the raw power of 2080 Max Q that Jason Hwang tried to sell is lower in performance compare RTX 2060 desktop.
PS5 and Xbox are informed to have GPU that better then RX 5700 XT or minimum comparable to it. In real life scenario on PC environment, PC gaming RX 5700 XT on benchmark is far better then RTX 2060.
Not include how expensives the price is , Laptop with GTX 2080 max Q are price around 2500 USD to 3000 USD depending on the brand.
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