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Forums - PC Discussion - Next Gen has arrived, PC gamer also need an upgrade. Xbox Series X specs will be the minimum requirement for next 7 years

Bofferbrauer2 said:
I just saw the thread title and knew who posted it (though it was a 50/50 chance, and the other one posted also already stating the same stuff, sooo...), what would be written in his post and that it's all a load of bull since he doesn't understand how the PC gaming business works.And have not been disappointed, to note:

Need at a minimum a 2080 Super? a) We don't even know the specs of the X series yet and b) does he still not understand the PC gaming specs are a gradual increase, not big jumps at new console generations, despite lots of attempts to tell him that by several posters here.

8c/16t minimum? Yeah, no. Just consider this: In 2016, most outlets still told everybody that for gaming, a 4c/4t Core i5 would be amply sufficient despite consoles having 8c for a couple years already. At the same time, an i7 was considered unnecessary overkill as practically no games were making use of more than 4 threads. An 8c/8t Core i7 9700 will still be amply sufficient in the coming years despite not having 16 threads. In fact, outside of some frame stuttering/min FPS, an old 4core i5 is still perfectly serviceable today - just can't keep up with 6 or more threads anymore as engines now slowly know how to split the workload upon 6-8 cores. 8 cores is still pretty much a hard limit that almost no game can cross, hence why a Ryzen 9 3900X/3950X are overkill in gaming even when accounting for the next 5 years or even more.

An SSD certainly helps for the loading times. But in games, the difference between an SATA SSD, PCI-E 3.0 NVME or even several PCI-E 4.0 in Raid O is very negligible, as several tests have proven. The reason is that Games need the fast access, but not the higher bandwith NVME brings to the table.

Gaming PCs already have 16-32 GiByte these days and certainly will move to 64 GiByte during next gen, even if the next-gen console only come with 16GB of unified RAM. PC simply has other needs here that are not connected to gaming.

OK tell me buddy what is the minimum requirement spec to run 8th gen games (ps4/Xbox One) on PC. It's GTX 6600/Radeon 7850 and minimum 8GB RAM  , new games require 4 core and old games required just 2 core like i3 that's start in 2013 to 2014. It only need less powerful CPU because console like PS4 and Xbox One are running on netbook CPU that less powerful then i3. It's just natural if we use  8 core as standadr for PS5/Xbox SX for new game that will come on the future.

All next gen games will be built base on SSD , so SSD will not be just about storing but also streaming some aset and cleaver technique that never been done on PC or any device. This never been implemented because no machine use this as standard, gladly console push as standard. Hell even PC owner like you still don't agree of upgrading PC to have SSD as standard. just look at thi video 

SO if you said PC has 32 - 64 GB then why not a balance on every aspect like CPU and GPU as well?  Thus i suggest a "minimum requirement" because only small people has 32 or even 64GB most people has 16 or 8 . I even only use 8 GB DDR4. 

 Why you people are so sensitive about this, is just an natural process to upgrade when you want to play a next gen consoles games, it happen the same thing on the past . 

I never kewn PC gamer in here are very negative on next gen, you guys should glad console push new standard to high end gaming PC, so you can move to new hardware or perhaps your high end PC can be utilize  and optimize rather than just running games at 120 fps LOL. 

 



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Leynos said:

I just got my laptop last year after 7 years with the old one. I'm sure my 1060 will be fine for me. After all they have another model on par with PS4 pro coming as well.

I am sure Xbox series S that will be coming next year will have stronger then that. And you are using Laptop ? that GPU on Laptop is weak compared to desktop. Try to build desktop for gaming. 



Wow. I didn't expect to see such nonsense, yet here it is. I'm not even going to explain why it's nonsense because it's been done already - several times, in fact. At best, there's some very poor expression of intent here, and that might not even be the case.



CGI-Quality said:

I never kewn PC gamer in here are very negative on next gen, you guys should glad console push new standard to high end gaming PC, so you can move to new hardware or perhaps your high end PC can be utilize  and optimize rather than just running games at 120 fps LOL. 

As head mod , you can be wiser than this 



Zkuq said:
Wow. I didn't expect to see such nonsense, yet here it is. I'm not even going to explain why it's nonsense because it's been done already - several times, in fact. At best, there's some very poor expression of intent here, and that might not even be the case.

Wow thanks for the contribution 



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CGI-Quality said:
HollyGamer said:

As head mod , you can be wiser than this 

My status as a mod is irrelevant. What you posted there is just very misinformed and you need to not try to talk down to people, particularly if you don't understand the material.

Your status as mod is super relevant, i always see you advising people not to reply with only a single gif to confuse people. Then why are you break your own rule and advice? as pewdiepie said Hmmmm ??? :) :) 



it looks like it will be a beastly thing, and i just upgraded FML



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CGI-Quality said:
HollyGamer said:

Your status as mod is super relevant, i always see you advising people not to reply with only a single gif to confuse people. Then why are you break your own rule and advice? as pewdiepie said Hmmmm ??? :) :) 

You can't 'always see me advising people not to post gif responses', because outside of habit, it isn't a big deal (and most posters here don't do it). More importantly, quit trying to derail this thread (your topic, I might add) and stick to the subject matter. Several of your replies to people were needlessly combative or totally avoid tackling the material. You got my reaction because, again, what you posted in the quote was totally misinformed.

If this is the kind of thread you want to host, be prepared to deal people challenging your ideas that are incorrect. 

I am glad we agree.

On topic , i am glad to hear from you regarding this . So what's your opinion? I believe you are graphic designer So it will good to have some input.



1-2 years after launch those specs might be reasonable to have not to run into major hiccups - e.g., Witcher 3 came out some year and a half after launch and required close to PS4 specs...at least officially, given that through ini editing it was able to run on potato PCs right of the bat...but to actually look and perform nice it needed solid PC.

So around second half of 2022 for those specs, which is quite a bit down the line and at least two GPU gens away.



HoloDust said:
1-2 years after launch those specs might be reasonable to have not to run into major hiccups - e.g., Witcher 3 came out some year and a half after launch and required close to PS4 specs...at least officially, given that through ini editing it was able to run on potato PCs right of the bat...but to actually look and perform nice it needed solid PC.

So around second half of 2022 for those specs, which is quite a bit down the line and at least two GPU gens away.

I can agree with this.