Pokemon and Switch are kicking ass.

With digital estimates S/S should be around 2.8-2.9 million

The point is that portable gaming remains popular in Japan while the market share for non-portable gaming has fallen considerably. Switch figures can't be used to show that non-portable gaming is recovering because it can be used as a portable. The only way to use the numbers would be to know what the Switch would have hypothetically sold if it had no handheld/portable capabilities.

"By that logic, Nintendo would now be less popular in Japanese homes than they were with the Wii U." - I'm sure that in the alternate-reality where the Switch can only be used hooked up to a TV it would still be doing a lot better than the WiiU in Japan. But this isn't the type of comparison that I was trying to draw attention to lol.

"From a publisher perspective, Switch is really awesome. No more headache about the decision to make a game for a home platform or a portable console because both bases get covered with a single effort." - I agree.

Damn. Another hold at 180k. Very impressive. I don't think it'll match Dec 2018 numbers cuz of Smash last year, but I think it will hold a 1 million YoY lead, bringing in a bit over 4.5 million for the year (which is exactly what I predicted at the start of the year, go me!). I guess it's possible lots of 3DS (handheld focused) owners who don't have a Switch yet get the Lite for Christmas and sales match last year, but that just seems a bit tough with no big release this month.

All I know is the first 10 months of next year (before new consoles eat up some sales) are gonna be insane for Switch's piece of the hardware pie in Japan with PS4 dying hard and Switch only getting stronger.

Eh, I'm not left with just PS5/Scarlett cause the question wasn't time limited lol, it could be the generation after that or the one after that. Though even if I was just asking for PS5+Scarlett, it's more about the marketshare I'm interested in (% sold in Japan) than the 12m figure.

With each generation the % of total sales coming from Japan has declined for dedicate home consoles (27%, 23%, 14%, 9%, 7.5%) Will this number recover, that's the question, or are consoles that need hooking up to a TV to use dead for good.

I don’t think the Switches home console portion is as meaningless as you‘re making it out to be.

Pretty much everyone expected the lite to outperform the OG model in Japan because of the handheld centric nature of it as well as the lower pricepoint, but that just didn‘t happen.

Even heading into the holidays it seems as if the roughly 2/3 to 1/3 split in favour of the dockable sku will hold. Additionally everything points to the Switch lite reaching a new demographic/selling as a secondary device, since it pretty much didn‘t eat into the OG skus sales.

That means that consumers not only view Switch as a home console and care about it being able to be one, but specifically buy it because it is also a home console.

I'm not saying it's meaningless lol, I'm just saying there's no way to know the numbers. So how can we compare with numbers we don't have? Better to not include Switch at all rather than just guess and say "uh ok, if Switch could only be used on a TV it would have still sold (9m/7m/5m in Japan)"

Switch crushin' it, PS4 slummin' it. I thought I had looking at the weak December lineup is that this year will be a very interesting year to gauge what the holiday boost does on its own. Last year, Smash and the holiday rush hit at the same time making it hard to know how much each one contributed to the hardware rise.

The hybrid form factor doesn't sell because of portable in Japan it sells because the is finally a platform that now suits the hectic culture with out the need to pick between home or portable this is why the OG Switch is beating out the Lite as many consumers clearly still want the home console experience but the hectic schedule of the culture there may not make it worth while but with the Switch that isn't as much of an issue. Before many of these consumers may have just opted for the portable Nintendo platform like the 3DS because that was the only way to get a fair amount of gaming as a home console would only allow them minimal time gaming but now the prospect of home console experience is now made available to them again as they can game while out when they have a chance like they did with portables then come home and continue where they left off on a big screen where as a portable from before wouldn't have allowed the latter part hence the OG Switch's sales.

PS4 is really suffering in Japan. I expect these weekly Japanese updates to be all about the Switch for years. I don't see anything coming around as a serious competitor in Japan.

Switch sales in Japan will overtake the 3DS... and the 3DS even outsold the PS2 in Japan. So yeah, it doesn't really matter what Sony has in store with the PS5, it's not going to come close sales-wise in Japan. Switch will dominate the charts in Japan probably for the next 3 years.