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Rumor: Xbox Scarlet Devkit is late behind the schedule to surprise Sony

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To surprise Sony 9 20.45%
 
It's late because Sony ar... 9 20.45%
 
It's just showed Microsof... 6 13.64%
 
They probably just rebuil... 4 9.09%
 
Who knows 16 36.36%
 
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Maybe MS will have a more powerful system than PS5 but does it really matter? Intellivision was more powerful than Atari 2600. Master System more powerful than NES. SNES did beat Genesis and SNES overall was the beefier system so there is a win. PS1 is less powerful than N64. PS2 was less powerful than Xbox and Gamecube. Wii was less powerful than PS360. PS4 is a bit more muddled. Base PS4 is better than base Xbox One but Pro is weaker than X. Maybe PS5 will best Scarlett.

Power more often then doesn't really matter. PS4 having much more Japanese support, I just don't see how Xbox can topple PS unless Sony pulls out an XBO reveal blunder or PS3. The last thing I am concerned about next-gen is power levels. I care about my physical games. The kind of games we get that I want to buy. How tolerable are the DLC practices or can I play it offline. I'm more worried about how devs will screw things up.



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OK man, but coming to devkit thread and saying you don't care about hardware is like coming to videogame site and saying you prefer hopscotch.
Maybe a lost cause, but what do "i totally don't care, except i care enough to tell you i don't care" statements do for ANYBODY? I'm really with you in the bigger picture re: DLC and controls on customer, but that doesn't justify hijacking hardware thread.



to surprise Sony?

that is some strange rhetoric for an editor of a part tech based publication to be sprouting. There are too many important things that need to be finalised like yesterday for that to even remotely be true.

Either MS is having issues, or somethings have just taken a little longer to finalise. I'm guessing it's the latter.



Azzanation said:
setsunatenshi said:

one set of studios puts out Spider Man, Horizon, Bloodborne, Uncharted, Last of Us, God of War, etc. The other is putting out sea of thieves, crackdown 3, state of decay, Halo, Gears, etc.

It's not a numbers game, it's the quality difference between the studios.

Having said that, can't wait for wasteland 3 :)

Quality is a debatable topic, The games you picked above is more a preference thing. All those games are completely different to each other so apples to oranges. But if you want to compare quality than its best you put simular games togother. Better comparing same genre games like Halo 5 up with games like Killzone SF or Grand Turismo Sport up against Forza Motorsport 7 etc.

MS claimed most of there studios have 2 teams working on games, eg Rare is making Everwild while the other team focuses on Sea of Thieves etc.

Well, yeah, it's a debatable topic, which is why we are debating it...

I did mention halo on my examples above and it's patently obvious the quality difference in quality output from both lines of first party studios to the general public. If you'd want to put games side by side for some reason, i think it would look more embarrassing for Microsoft if you put their 3rd person action games vs the ones on Sony side.

We have some admission by the Xbox guys themselves in the justification for their studio purchasing spree, they were caught with their pants down all generation and hopefully they can improve. Which goes back to my original point, it's not about quantity, these studios need now to produce the type of quality content Sony WWS have done this gen.. Hope they can, more good games for us all to enjoy.



We re less than a year away.... and hardly anyone has a xbox scarlet dev kit?
And its hardware isnt finalise yet?

To surprise sony? I dont buy it.
Also some people must have ones, since they can all agree the PS5 dev kit is currently faster.



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twintail said:
to surprise Sony?

that is some strange rhetoric for an editor of a part tech based publication to be sprouting. There are too many important things that need to be finalised like yesterday for that to even remotely be true.

Either MS is having issues, or somethings have just taken a little longer to finalise. I'm guessing it's the latter.

Yep sounds like this guy is a Xbox guy, and its a excuse.



Azzanation said:
CGI-Quality said:

Actually, at last count, they were about even (around 15 each). This is particularly better for Sony [currently], given their 1st Party studios put out more hardware pushing content. 

Of course, I expect things to even back out some at the beginning of next gen, but I just wanted to clear up that little misconception. :P

Same number of studios sure, same number of teams maybe not.

Which means nothing if 'more teams' produce less meaningful content. For Microsoft, it is a wait-and-see scenario. 



                                                                                                                                            

I am not sure I believe MS would purposefully do this. I think at the end of the day I fully expect PS5 and Scarlett to have about equal power, maybe a very minute edge one way or the other (less than 10% advantage in GPU/CPU). That's assuming MS nor Sony are doing multiple SKU's at launch.



NobleTeam360 said:
I am not sure I believe MS would purposefully do this. I think at the end of the day I fully expect PS5 and Scarlett to have about equal power, maybe a very minute edge one way or the other (less than 10% advantage in GPU/CPU). That's assuming MS nor Sony are doing multiple SKU's at launch.

Agreed.

And one way or another, it's really quite trivial regardless. Sure, it's a neat line to throw in your ads to say you have the most powerful console on the planet or whatever, but at the end of the day, that doesn't mean a damn thing to anyone unless you have games that realize that in a meaningful way. 



shikamaru317 said:

It’s not unheard of for MS and Sony to play these sorts of spec guessing games with one another. Leakers and developers thought PS4 only had 4GB of RAM right up until it was announced, because Sony decided on 8GB at the last minute.

Don't bring up this nonsense again and again and again. Ram for consoles is ordered AT LEAST one year in advance of actually putting them onto boards. The only cool thing about that nonsense is that Sony was able to dupe (almost) anybody with the 4G line, basically to reveal time.

Neither Microsoft nor Sony has any spare time or money to play games. They basically develop their systems with a final target price (with whatever technology they can use during the development cycle) in mind. The fact that both systems have always come out roughly with the same power tells you their targets are pretty similar if not identical (as can be expected from a mass product).