I clicked on the spoiler and ruined the whole impeachment for myself. 😢

I'm actually not invested in this subject yet. I'm looking forward to justice being done one way or the other. I hope people can put their personal beliefs to the side for now. If the man has done something wrong (and I admit I feel that he has), let him be punished. If not, let him do his job. I'm personally tired of all of the political fighting.

*and now, to read the thread...

Its very interesting on McConnell end.  I wonder if he is doing this on purpose in a move to remove himself from the proceedings.  Its not like McConnell doesn't know how this would play out once he made his statements.  Just seems weird for him to go on public notice stating he is aligning the Senate with the White House.

Interesting.  I wonder if Chief Justice John Roberts would remove Senators for comments they have made.  Lindsey and McConnel come to mind right off the bat, I do believe there were a few others.  If such a thing would occur that would be very interesting.

What's the likelihood he gets removed from office? If he is removed, is he allowed to run again in 2020? Mostly though I'm interesting in seeing what the hot topic is gonna be once Trump is gone. Maybe they can address the literal shit going on in California and Virginia finally.

How is this undemocratic? I believe the point of democracy is to keep tyrants from staying in power. Putting the nation's figurehead on trial certainly wouldn't happen in North Korea or China. It's true that the trump hate has been so in our faces for so annoyingly long, but if he really has committed crimes (I've not been paying attention so idk) then he's simply gotta go. Unless you're saying it's for sure that Trump won't be removed from office therefore this whole thing is a pointless waste of time and resources, in which case yeah I agree with you.

Eh what's so bad about being passed by other nations? Currently for those not at the top rung of society, it's still better here than most places in the world, and even after being surpassed, it'll still be decent.

That is some low ass faith in humanity lol, to say republicans would still support him even after committing crimes simply because they share the same meaningless label. Why are they the ones who decide anyway? Should be a courtroom like everyone else gets.

To say that is to badly underestimate the single-mindedness of the evangelical bloc that is primarily in the southeastern United States. Polls repeatedly show that they would literally support him no matter what crimes he committed, and they would support him even if he ultimately crashed the economy. Their single-minded objective is the overturn of rulings like Roe v. Wade and Obergefell v. Hodges. They want Trump to pack the Supreme Court. One of the reason they were so furious with Clinton is that he "cheated" them out of an opportunity to pack the court in the 1990s on the heels of the Planned Parenthood of Southeast Pennsylvania v. Casey decision. There's also still residual anger over the failed SCOTUS nomination of Robert Bork, who was opposed to Roe. After he was defeated and Douglas Ginsburg withdrew due to a history of marijuana usage, that seat went to Anthony Kennedy, an overall conservative justice who would nevertheless go on to be a swing vote in a lot of court decisions the evangelicals hated. He upheld the right to abortion in the PP v. Casey ruling, for example, although he was part of the decision that created the "undue burden" standard. Had Bork been on that court instead of Kennedy, they could have overturned Roe. They've never quite gotten over that. That isn't some "low ass faith in humanity," that's a realistic view in this case. 

The Constitution gives the House the sole right of impeachment, and the Senate the sole right to try federal officials, including the President, who have been impeached. That's why they are the ones who decide. One of Congress's key roles is oversight of the federal government. Congress can impeach members of the judiciary and executive branches, including the President, and expel their own members, but the President cannot fire members of Congress, nor can the Supreme Court order their removal from office.

Why do you (And most republicans) have to be so disingenuous about all this? Stop trying to twist and contort the narrative so that the world is simply hating Trump becuase we hate Trump. This isn't a witch hunt, it's not a hoax, it's not fake news, the man has been an abolute shit-disturber since day one. we're not looking for an excuse to boot him due to partisan bias, we're not trying to twist the narrative so that we can excuse our hate...

...we hate him BECAUSE of all the things he does, the lies he tells, the complete lack of qualifications he has, and the petulant, childish behaviour he exists. Nobody's out to get him becuase the meanie republican got elected, we hate him becuase he's an abhorrent human being who has no place being in a position of power. He did all of this to himself by being racist, bigoted, ignorant, and childish. He's being treated appropriately to his behaviour. He's acting like a child, so he's being punished accordingly. 

If anything Democracy is working at its best, becuase the moronic masses the voted him in had their voice heard, and now the rest of us collectively agree he's an absolute shithead and needs to go for all sorts of issues. This is just the tipping point to a campaign of petulance and disgusting behaviour. Frankly, the only reason he wasn't impeached 6 months into his term was because of the partisanship of the republican party and his shitty followers inexplicably supporting his fascist behaviour and rampant xenophobia. The only reason he got voted for in the first place and wasn't kicked to the curb soon thereafter is because there's a gross number of very terrible people in America supporting his bigotry as the last gasp of old racist white men. 

My only concern is what's gonna happen if he does get impeached. Who knows what equally terrifying leader we'll have. Because, for as idiotic and childish as Trump is, at least he doesn't wanna 'hang em all' when it comes to gay people. 

These reasons are extremely vague and consistent with a conditioned psychological response created by brain-washing and mind control.  What specifically has Trump done that is racist?  Most of the reasons I hear such as his "Muslim ban" are patently false: how was this a "Muslim ban" when countries like Saudi Arabia or Indonesia were left off the list which have much higher percentages of Muslim adherents?  The countries that Trump banned were countries where the US has had past military conflicts or reasons to be concerned about heightened terrorist activity and I have never heard Trump once refer to it as a Muslim ban in any of his rallies or speeches: this was one of the things that the media deliberately slanted to support a very specific narrative.

I assert that your hatred for Trump is a product of the hatred that the mainstream corporate media has for him (and more specifically, their globalist controllers).  I guarantee that if you unplug from the mainstream media and resolve to just stop listening to any media that has been produced by a large corporation, you will find that your hatred will start to subside for no apparent reason.  The globalist have over-thrown countless countries (including the Ukraine) using the exact techniques that are being used on you right now and they know exactly how to implement hypnosis and mind control techniques within the media that they control to bring about a conditioned response from a significant segment of the population.  Once you are out from under this control, it will be so obvious that this impeachment is a sham that this debate wouldn't even be necessary.

Do you have evidence to backup any of this? Or are you just making mindless assumptions in the hopes you might be right?

I am Australian so I do not adhere to American politics or media... And I still think Trump is a wanker.

If he gets impeached, he obviously deserved it, just like any other president that gets impeached, they aren't initiated straight out of the blue.