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I know nothing of substance will come of it even if the impeachment succeeds but it will do two great things. It will notch Trump down a peg and it will partly restore my current non existent faith in US politics and judicial system to actually function as they're supposed to in a democratic nation.



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I am very disappointed that the actual consequences of impeachment hardly mean anything. There has been so much fuss about impeachment for more than two years, but it's actually not a big deal.



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RolStoppable said:
I am very disappointed that the actual consequences of impeachment hardly mean anything. There has been so much fuss about impeachment for more than two years, but it's actually not a big deal.

Wait? Isn’t the charge effectively treason? Opening up to all sorts of punishment ranging from removal of office, to imprisonment, to execution by firing squad?



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SpokenTruth said:

The impeachment will be finished before the election, not after. 

Will it though?

Absolutely.  The Articles of Impeachment will be drafted probably around the middle of December.  The Senate trial itself will likely take between 2-4 months. In the Preparation for Trial stage, they will actually define how long the trial will last.  They will set key dates for testimony, defense, cross-examinations, closing, deliberation and verdict.  They would never be able to set a date that is after the election.  1, because that's way longer than necessary.  2, Chief Justice John Roberts would likely charge Mitch McConnell and other Senate leaders with intentionally mishandling their case...which would itself be grounds for their own impeachment.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

quote, "Early 2018 - Former Ukrainian officials and Trump associates conspired to have U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ousted."

Ousted? Conspired? Ambassadors are not ousted. They are appointed by the President and affirmed in the Senate. There is nothing nefarious about changing an ambassador with any new President. The only thing odd is when an ambassador resists their position to be changed to another.



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Homeroids said:
quote, "Early 2018 - Former Ukrainian officials and Trump associates conspired to have U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ousted."

Ousted? Conspired? Ambassadors are not ousted. They are appointed by the President and affirmed in the Senate. There is nothing nefarious about changing an ambassador with any new President. The only thing odd is when an ambassador resists their position to be changed to another.

As noted by other testimony from colleagues, she was removed for means that were based on the domestic political issue rather than for actual foreign policy. 

And if were merely a new president issue, why wasn't she recalled in early 2017?

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Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

vivster said:
I know nothing of substance will come of it even if the impeachment succeeds but it will do two great things. It will notch Trump down a peg and it will partly restore my current non existent faith in US politics and judicial system to actually function as they're supposed to in a democratic nation.

HAve you not been paying attention to anything over the past four years? This will not 'notch Trump down a peg', as the man is completely shameless and has absolutely zero self-awareness. He is so delusional and distanced from Reality I wouldn't be surprised if, one week after he's impeached, he does a press conference claiming he was still the president and that this was just to appease the fake news or some BS conspiracy. 

The man is immune to decency. 

That said, I read as much as I could...is Trump actually getting impeached? or is this just another hopeful wish? 



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Runa216 said:

That said, I read as much as I could...is Trump actually getting impeached? or is this just another hopeful wish? 

He is officially being impeached.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Runa216 said:
vivster said:
I know nothing of substance will come of it even if the impeachment succeeds but it will do two great things. It will notch Trump down a peg and it will partly restore my current non existent faith in US politics and judicial system to actually function as they're supposed to in a democratic nation.

HAve you not been paying attention to anything over the past four years? This will not 'notch Trump down a peg', as the man is completely shameless and has absolutely zero self-awareness. He is so delusional and distanced from Reality I wouldn't be surprised if, one week after he's impeached, he does a press conference claiming he was still the president and that this was just to appease the fake news or some BS conspiracy. 

The man is immune to decency. 

That said, I read as much as I could...is Trump actually getting impeached? or is this just another hopeful wish? 

I'm not saying it will change him. For that he would need the ability of self reflection.

I'm just saying it will give everyone the chance to respond to each of his statements with "Lol, your ass got impeached, shut up idiot!", which will surely annoy him a bit and give everyone else a tiny bit of satisfaction.

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vivster said:
Runa216 said:

HAve you not been paying attention to anything over the past four years? This will not 'notch Trump down a peg', as the man is completely shameless and has absolutely zero self-awareness. He is so delusional and distanced from Reality I wouldn't be surprised if, one week after he's impeached, he does a press conference claiming he was still the president and that this was just to appease the fake news or some BS conspiracy. 

The man is immune to decency. 

That said, I read as much as I could...is Trump actually getting impeached? or is this just another hopeful wish? 

I'm not saying it will change him. For that he would need the ability of self reflection.

I'm just saying it will give everyone the chance to respond to each of his statements with "Lol, your ass got impeached, shut up idiot!", which will surely annoy him a bit abd give everyone else a tiny bit of satisfaction.

I really don’t understand American politics. It is like a reality TV show for entertainment.



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