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melbye on 28 November 2019

If PS4 sell big just think how well Switch will sell, it's gonna be massive



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Nautilus on 28 November 2019

Thats noice!Well, with that bundle, thats kind of expected



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Keiji on 28 November 2019

Even in France the deals are good. PS4 Slim is at 189,99€ and PS4 Pro is at 289,99€.

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JRPGfan on 28 November 2019
RolStoppable said:
JRPGfan said:

Theres truth to that.
At the same time, sony likes to make really low predictions that they can easily beat, and go "wow its selling so much better than we expected".

Wouldnt be a surprise, if they outsold their own forecast by atleast a million imo.

I can't think of any instance where a console manufacturer has lowered their original forecast in an attempt to do much better than expected. What their downward revision to 13.5m (after the original 16m had already been revised down to 15m before) most likely means is that it's going to be all downhill for the PS4 after Black Friday. Last year's December in the USA was already weak, but in 2019 it's going to be even worse. Europe has less emphasis on Black Friday, but holiday sales overall will also be down from last year. In Japan it looks like Sony won't match last year's deal and perhaps won't offer a deal at all.

Afterwards, January to March 2020 will be uneventful for PS4 hardware sales except for Final Fantasy VII at the backend. The PS4 should be down significantly year over year for the final quarter of the fiscal year, hence Sony's forecast.

FF7R is big though... thats like Halo levels of big.
Ghosts of Tsushima is probably like gears levels.
The Last of Us Part 2, is alot bigger than a halo title is.

Theres stuff for 2020... that should make new consumers want to jump on board, ontop of the already really solid lineup & library of games there.

Also like I said, that forecast down to 13.5m, is something thats gonna be blown past imo.



zorg1000 on 28 November 2019
JRPGfan said:
RolStoppable said:

I can't think of any instance where a console manufacturer has lowered their original forecast in an attempt to do much better than expected. What their downward revision to 13.5m (after the original 16m had already been revised down to 15m before) most likely means is that it's going to be all downhill for the PS4 after Black Friday. Last year's December in the USA was already weak, but in 2019 it's going to be even worse. Europe has less emphasis on Black Friday, but holiday sales overall will also be down from last year. In Japan it looks like Sony won't match last year's deal and perhaps won't offer a deal at all.

Afterwards, January to March 2020 will be uneventful for PS4 hardware sales except for Final Fantasy VII at the backend. The PS4 should be down significantly year over year for the final quarter of the fiscal year, hence Sony's forecast.

FF7R is big though... thats like Halo levels of big.
Ghosts of Tsushima is probably like gears levels.
The Last of Us Part 2, is alot bigger than a halo title is.

Theres stuff for 2020... that should make new consumers want to jump on board, ontop of the already really solid lineup & library of games there.

Also like I said, that forecast down to 13.5m, is something thats gonna be blown past imo.

The system selling power of games diminishes the further into the cycle we go, especially when it comes to franchises that already have a presence on the system.

FF7R & TLOU2 will both be huge sellers and will definitely move some hardware but the wont stop the decline.

As for the forcast getting blown past, that's not happening, they already adjusted it down twice this year and if they wanted to lowball than they would have done so from the beginning.



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DonFerrari on 28 November 2019
think-man said:
I've been considering getting a 3rd PS4 at that price. Well actually my gf has been trying to convince me we should get another one. I wouldn't mind getting the x1 s as it's super cheap right now. But the gf would rather we have a 3rd ps4 then a our 1st xbox 1 xD

Can't blame her kkkkk

@OP good, now let's see if they keep the 199 pricetag for the rest of holiday or just Xmas, and that they fully cut to 199 for next year.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Bofferbrauer2 on 28 November 2019

The only thing I fear is that after the deal is sold out and over, that the demand for the PS4 will crater hard and have comparatively slow December sales. It has already started trending with higher sales in November than December, but I fear it could get worse from here.



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

jason1637 on 28 November 2019

That's really impressive. Hopefully they don't run out os stock.



DonFerrari on 28 November 2019
zorg1000 said:
JRPGfan said:

FF7R is big though... thats like Halo levels of big.
Ghosts of Tsushima is probably like gears levels.
The Last of Us Part 2, is alot bigger than a halo title is.

Theres stuff for 2020... that should make new consumers want to jump on board, ontop of the already really solid lineup & library of games there.

Also like I said, that forecast down to 13.5m, is something thats gonna be blown past imo.

The system selling power of games diminishes the further into the cycle we go, especially when it comes to franchises that already have a presence on the system.

FF7R & TLOU2 will both be huge sellers and will definitely move some hardware but the wont stop the decline.

As for the forcast getting blown past, that's not happening, they already adjusted it down twice this year and if they wanted to lowball than they would have done so from the beginning.

I do agree with your points and that a down revision probably wasn't made to just brag that they overshoot it by some million.

But if they decide to make a permanent cut there is chance that they overshoot it anyway (but the down revision indicates they didn't want to cut, but plans change).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

TruckOSaurus on 28 November 2019

I've been wondering is http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/35785/benvtrigger/ the same guy as Benji-Sales?



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