Technicality.......that's what this is.....

Let's wait and see if we get numbers for HW this year on BF, and if they say the same things but with selling numbers this time. Until then...., i'll make an strategic retreat.

Some speculate that the low price of PS2 may even have caused PS3 to have a slower start. And since PS4 sales are still doing good, an wouldn't improve enough from even a 100 USD pricecut, Sony haven't seem a reason to discount it yet.

Switch was going to do big numbers regardless of the aging PS4/Xbox. Switch has been on fire since Smash (maybe even before with Let's Go) and hasnt let off the gas, aided by an overabundance of stellar tiles in 2019.

I'm not sure what that will prove?

Sales could certainly be up (I expect them to be) but it's for reasons like having a cheaper sku available and a new Pokemon generation releasing and a growing list of appealing evergreen software, not because of declining PS4/XBO sales.

Its correlation vs causation, you are looking at two things happening at once and assuming they are directly related.

Such denial...., my god!

It will prove the article is saying Switch sold more because PS4+XBO are going down, because that's what the article is saying even if you're doing everything possible to deny that.

I don't even agree with the article!!! My point was the complete opposite. This article is saying (or implying if you prefer) Switch sold more because it benefited of PS4/XBO doing bad not because of Switch's rising but only because they're old.

My point of view was that Switch has been a phenomenon since end of last year and it has obliterated all competition in USA the last 12-15 months and that the PS4/XBO drop is higher than it was meant to be because Switch has performed better than expected, affecting even more PS4/XBO in their decline. 

They're saying indirectly the same thing as me (that all consoles do indeed affect each other), but in a complete different direction, which i found ironic. That's why i laughed about it when i posted the link.

But ok, you are not going to agree with me, i get it. It was a funny argument while it lasted. Let's leave it that way.

Good day Sir! .

Yeah PS4 rocks so much it's not even funny anymore. Oh boy next year is gonna be so interesting, with the new gen systems coming on the market.

I still don't know if I should get a PS5 day one or wait to get it later. If it turns out it's 100% compatible with ALL PS4 games, if all my PSN purchases are usable immediately on PS5 as if it was a PS4, I might get it on the very day it is released. If not, then with my back log of games still to do I will be forced to keep my PS4 till I finish all those games first.

It's not easy to be a gamer, so many options, which one do I want?

Might as well wait until the reveal, find out launch price, specs, launch & post-lineup, features, etc before making a decision.

that's very true, at least in November XB1 surprised me a lot of time, maybe the only year it did less than expected was 2016. also in 2018 did about what i thought it was gonna sell.

any black friday numbers from europe countrys known ?

UK.

Apparently XB won by a "handfull of units" over the Switch.
Which where both abit over 100k, while the PS4 only did 60k+ range.