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Nice stretching before this week where the real stuff begins !



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MasonADC said:
curl-6 said:

The people wanting moar powah will still bash it for being weaker than the base PS4 and a gen behind PS5/Scarlett, and the average consumer won't care. The idea that it'd give a massive boost to Switch sales, especially "Wii + DS" levels, is just fantasy.

Having more power isn’t exactly the important part. Just having a new system that is better than the last is the important part. Power also isn’t the only important part that could factor in to it. Nintendo will have a new system like this eventually, probably next year. Lite won’t be the last of the switch family 

Next year is too early for a hardware refresh along the lines of a DSi or New 3DS. A price cut is more sensible for 2020, if it is even needed in the first place, given what the targeted price range of the PS5 and Scarlett is.



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curl-6 said:
MasonADC said:

Having more power isn’t exactly the important part. Just having a new system that is better than the last is the important part. Power also isn’t the only important part that could factor in to it. Nintendo will have a new system like this eventually, probably next year. Lite won’t be the last of the switch family 

If newness is the important part, no need to even bother with a substantial power upgrade. I agree they'll be more Switch models, but one targeting power would be pointless.

That’s why I don’t think it is targeting power, hence why I put pro in quotations. I think there will be a power increase, but I wouldn’t say it is “targeting” power



RolStoppable said:
MasonADC said:

Having more power isn’t exactly the important part. Just having a new system that is better than the last is the important part. Power also isn’t the only important part that could factor in to it. Nintendo will have a new system like this eventually, probably next year. Lite won’t be the last of the switch family 

Next year is too early for a hardware refresh along the lines of a DSi or New 3DS. A price cut is more sensible for 2020, if it is even needed in the first place, given what the targeted price range of the PS5 and Scarlett is.

3 and a half years is to early? How does that line up with other systems refreshes? 



MasonADC said:
curl-6 said:

If newness is the important part, no need to even bother with a substantial power upgrade. I agree they'll be more Switch models, but one targeting power would be pointless.

That’s why I don’t think it is targeting power, hence why I put pro in quotations. I think there will be a power increase, but I wouldn’t say it is “targeting” power

Ah, see i was referring to a Pro along the lines of PS4 Pro, a substantial power upgrade aimed at appealing to the "moar powah" folks. I don't think they should make a revision of the Switch along those lines.



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MasonADC said:
RolStoppable said:

Next year is too early for a hardware refresh along the lines of a DSi or New 3DS. A price cut is more sensible for 2020, if it is even needed in the first place, given what the targeted price range of the PS5 and Scarlett is.

3 and a half years is to early? How does that line up with other systems refreshes? 

There are multiple reasons to do revisions:

1. Spur sales when a decline is expected without a revision.
2. Put out a better version to go back to a higher price point or at least maintain the same one for a longer time.
3. Implement features that necessitate a revision and can't be done via a simple OS update.
4. Lower production costs to improve profit margins.
5. A combination of any of the above.

Switch is only the second console after the Wii that entered its third year without getting a price cut, and Switch will be the first console to enter its fourth year without getting a price cut. That right there is why it's too early to launch a revision in 2020.

Switch sales remain great and the hybrid SKU has gotten a "silent" upgrade this August to reduce its production costs. No real benefit to do a revision during 2020.



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Just 1 million left between Switch and Xbone total sales. The time is nigh.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
zorg1000 said:

PS4 is $199 with 3 games bundled

For a price conscious customer this may be a better deal (especially when you consider GamePass).  We won't know until next week.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Microsoft-Xbox-One-S-1TB-All-Digital-Edition-3-Game-Bundle-Disc-free-Gaming-White-NJP-00050/339940120?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227311511600&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=391918192534&wl4=pla-831050434440&wl5=9013289&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=339940120&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2vjuBRCqARIsAJL5a-JYUASa7fnFFJ9FSnQnA-Da1hYNTJzWaw21GGhNl8zEru00-MAkU2caAmTWEALw_wcB

Sure it's a better deal but XBO has had better deals for 5 years and it hasnt stopped PS4 from consistently selling better.



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zorg1000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

For a price conscious customer this may be a better deal (especially when you consider GamePass).  We won't know until next week.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Microsoft-Xbox-One-S-1TB-All-Digital-Edition-3-Game-Bundle-Disc-free-Gaming-White-NJP-00050/339940120?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227311511600&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=391918192534&wl4=pla-831050434440&wl5=9013289&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=339940120&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2vjuBRCqARIsAJL5a-JYUASa7fnFFJ9FSnQnA-Da1hYNTJzWaw21GGhNl8zEru00-MAkU2caAmTWEALw_wcB

Sure it's a better deal but XBO has had better deals for 5 years and it hasnt stopped PS4 from consistently selling better.

Actually I seem to recall XB1 being competitive with PS4 in the US during November.  I think XB1 even came in first once.*  November is normally when XB1 does its best.

EDIT: I looked this up.  November 2017 XB1 placed first in revenue, but not units.  This still illustrates that XB1 is very competitive during November (and Black Friday) in the US.

Last edited by The_Liquid_Laser - on 28 November 2019

Should be a great BF for all Consoles, Xbox is almost free in Europe right now until December 2nd.