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DonFerrari said:
SquirrelWhisperer said:

eww, you suck. i never passed judgement on the game, but it's a FACT that this is only a portion of the original. but hey, since you have all of lifes answers i was wondering if i would get vincent, yuffie, and cait sith in this game? can i fight ruby weapon? do i get omnislash? how bout big guard? comet? KoTR? a chocobo? quadra magic? or does that happen in the other 2/3rds of the game? By the way the matrix sucks ass, so write me a novel about it.

You really don't need to be this unpolite. And until you finish playing this part of the remake you can't say you won't be satisfied.

Also let's say FF13 instead of launching with 3 games now came together as a single game (and when FF13 first launched you didn't know it would be a trilogy). Would FF13-1 be incomplete and unsatisfying game because of it?

Dicing a 100+h game into 3  50+h game with more content and having they all being satisfying isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Did you complain Harry Potter had 7 parts book and 8 for movies or that Game of Thrones got over 6 parts?

Except none of those games are remake though. Maybe he just want the complete story of the original with high end graphic for ps4?



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The implementation of classic mode is the only thing I've seen that will actually make this game a worthwhile experience. I'm no fan of them cutting it in parts and so will wait for the obvious complete collection in 7-10 years on the PS5.



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HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

You really don't need to be this unpolite. And until you finish playing this part of the remake you can't say you won't be satisfied.

Also let's say FF13 instead of launching with 3 games now came together as a single game (and when FF13 first launched you didn't know it would be a trilogy). Would FF13-1 be incomplete and unsatisfying game because of it?

Dicing a 100+h game into 3  50+h game with more content and having they all being satisfying isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Did you complain Harry Potter had 7 parts book and 8 for movies or that Game of Thrones got over 6 parts?

Except none of those games are remake though. Maybe he just want the complete story of the original with high end graphic for ps4?

And where does it say he wont get the complete story and more? Making it into more than 1 game don't change that.

The godfather is a single book with no much more than 300 pages, when you watched it as a trilogy did it piss you off that they decided to make 3 movies instead of a single one?

Until the game launches and he plays he can't really say it will be bad because it was made into more than a single entry.



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I think in addition to a questionable attitude, he has a point.

Harry Potter is legitimate in having 7 books, because it first appeared that way. 8 movies on the other hand was a problem for some due to the fear of it being stretched thin.

Same thing with The Hobbit - small book, perfectly fine. 3 movies however were reason for concern.

If FF13 came out in one, it would still very much feel like 3 different games, because of different themes, story, game world design and gameplay.

And I think it is a valid concern to have for FF7 to feel like one third of a game. If they make it into a very different game (and gameplay wise and graphically they already did), part 1 could feel like a whole thing. Bit it is a remake and I suspect the story not to change too dramatically.

You are right - remains to be seen if part 1 can stand on its own. But I am sceptical. And I think for good reason.



DonFerrari said:
Random_Matt said:
I'll await the best version.

I'm pending between buying it at launch for PS4Pro, wait for PS5 version if they talk about specific enhanced version or going crazy and wait for all to be launched and buy in a bundle.

Could be tempted with the latter, hoping PS5 is at least 60 FPS as standard.



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Never payed FF7 but this looks good :) Will be happy to be able to play the game with this remake!



Jpcc86 said:

Looks fantastic and im loving that theres a "skill system". Cant wait to play it.
Still very much curious about how they are changing the story cause some of these characters I thought would, you know, only appear in part 1.

Well, I'm not getting my hopes up about them appearing in more than just this part, but I would love it if they alter the story of at least one character and have them appear in future parts as well.

JuliusHackebeil said:

I think in addition to a questionable attitude, he has a point.

Harry Potter is legitimate in having 7 books, because it first appeared that way. 8 movies on the other hand was a problem for some due to the fear of it being stretched thin.

Same thing with The Hobbit - small book, perfectly fine. 3 movies however were reason for concern.

If FF13 came out in one, it would still very much feel like 3 different games, because of different themes, story, game world design and gameplay.

And I think it is a valid concern to have for FF7 to feel like one third of a game. If they make it into a very different game (and gameplay wise and graphically they already did), part 1 could feel like a whole thing. Bit it is a remake and I suspect the story not to change too dramatically.

You are right - remains to be seen if part 1 can stand on its own. But I am sceptical. And I think for good reason.

I'm not saying it's not a valid concern to have about FF7R. But already calling it 1/3 of a game before we know how it turns out, isn't.

It can be written in a way where each game feels conclusive and satisfying on its own. Even if you know there's more to the journey.
.hack//G.U. for example was such a trilogy. And perhaps a more interesting example is Xenosaga. Because it went through a bit of the reversed situation.
It was intended to be 6 games, but after Namco meddled in the development of Episode 2, which lead to it being much more poorly received by fans than the first one, it was then shortened down to just 3 games. So the third game, which was supposed to be about the halfway point, was instead re-written to wrap up the entire story.

And I thought they did a good job. It felt like a satisfying game on its own, and an appropriate conclusion to the whole story. That they mashed in 4 games worth of story content into one game, or cut other parts out, wasn't particularly noticeable to me. There were some lose ends, but that's not an uncommon thing with any story ending.

About Harry Potter though, each film covered less than one single book did, as they had to skip a lot of details. So technically they may need more films than books to cover everything. But a movie is a format you general take in during one single sitting. So each film can't be too long on its own. And if they split up a book into two separate films, each film still needs to feel like a full movie.

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Hiku said:
Jpcc86 said:

Looks fantastic and im loving that theres a "skill system". Cant wait to play it.
Still very much curious about how they are changing the story cause some of these characters I thought would, you know, only appear in part 1.

Well, I'm not getting my hopes up about them appearing in more than just this part, but I would love it if they alter the story of at least one character and have then appear in future parts as well.

I am assuming from the start that the story will be heavily altered. A lot of people are treating this as a 1/3 of a game or "5hr of actual story with a lot of filler" and that is a very sad way to look at any remake. The story we know of FF7 is irrelevant, this is gonna grab that and just throw in some big modifications to stablished areas and characters as well as introducing new areas and characters. Its gonna be a new game based on an old one. A proper remake. 

We dont know how the original story will be divided - (but assuming is fun) - im assuming that the first part will end in the main characters leaving Midgard and Shinra will be written as the big antagonist of the first game, with only references that Sephiroth is around until the very end, cause in my head that'd make a lot of sense and its a natural story wrapping up nicely, so in that sense I can imagine they'd alter the story in ways that fit that logic. Like leaving Red completely out of the first game for example, or simply having supporting characters come back to the later episodes for simple continuity... Like, lets say, Biggs and Wedge (and Jessie by proxy)
Since every FF has to have a Biggs and Wedge. 



John2290 said:
I'll just wait til part 3 is out. Tbh, the whole part thing is foolishness and with the amount of money FF14 makes SE they should be able to tie this all up in a bow in one huge game but the stingy fools keep fucling up somehow, perhaps they throw to much money at things and end up with a star citizen situation but you think they'd have learned by now, ffs.

Its more than just money. It would also mean waiting until like 2023 for a 120hr game. I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who are super comfortable with the game being broken up into 40hr parts parts knowing that the scope really dwarfs a lot of modern games. Dare I say I don't actually want to play a 120hr game unless its an open world western RPG like skyrim where I'm crafting my own character etc

If it means each location, character and story arc is fleshed out like never before as opposed to a ton of content being cut or glassed over, I'm ok with splitting it into parts. Would also have been cool with a more condensed tight execution of the original story which cuts all fat, but this way I get more as a gamer. All the meanwhile we get to play signifcant parts of the story before the 8 year dev cycle is wrapped up. I'm keen on each experience feeling rewarding and whole and having played the original game there are so many bullet points at which the original title could have been split into sequels and such, so I find weird this is even a thing for people familiar with the story. Its like people have never heard of a cliff hanger before. Time will tell how well its executed but there are really no modern AAA games which fit the scope and diversity of a classic FF. The closet example is Witcher 3 but the cinematics and tailored details of the world aren't really comparable. 

And as you said, theres a super easy solution for those who want to play it in one go... waiting til they're all out. 

Last edited by Otter - on 26 November 2019

Telling ya'll right now. Those who choose to wait 4-5yrs is going to have a difficult time avoiding spoilers. Sorry not sorry.