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John2290 said:
I'll just wait til part 3 is out. Tbh, the whole part thing is foolishness and with the amount of money FF14 makes SE they should be able to tie this all up in a bow in one huge game but the stingy fools keep fucling up somehow, perhaps they throw to much money at things and end up with a star citizen situation but you think they'd have learned by now, ffs.

Its more than just money. It would also mean waiting until like 2023 for a 120hr game. I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who are super comfortable with the game being broken up into 40hr parts parts knowing that the scope really dwarfs a lot of modern games. Dare I say I don't actually want to play a 120hr game unless its an open world western RPG like skyrim where I'm crafting my own character etc

If it means each location, character and story arc is fleshed out like never before as opposed to a ton of content being cut or glassed over, I'm ok with splitting it into parts. Would also have been cool with a more condensed tight execution of the original story which cuts all fat, but this way I get more as a gamer. All the meanwhile we get to play signifcant parts of the story before the 8 year dev cycle is wrapped up. I'm keen on each experience feeling rewarding and whole and having played the original game there are so many bullet points at which the original title could have been split into sequels and such, so I find weird this is even a thing for people familiar with the story. Its like people have never heard of a cliff hanger before. Time will tell how well its executed but there are really no modern AAA games which fit the scope and diversity of a classic FF. The closet example is Witcher 3 but the cinematics and tailored details of the world aren't really comparable. 

And as you said, theres a super easy solution for those who want to play it in one go... waiting til they're all out. 

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Telling ya'll right now. Those who choose to wait 4-5yrs is going to have a difficult time avoiding spoilers. Sorry not sorry.



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Likely going to wait until the whole thing is out and remastered and available across the whole PS/Xbox family and play it on whichever is the most powerful console version available at that stage.



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Hiku said:

Then there are all the ideas they wish they could have done in the original, but didn't have time, or didn't think about until afterwards, or decided to go in one direction so they couldn't go in the other. But now they can. Etc.

I know they'll never go for it, because it would be something that would not only cross between part 1&2 at the very least, not to mention changing an established character. But I kind of want to see them implement an idea they had for Yuffie, where you'd see posters describing her with a different age and appearance each time, with the last one leading to her final appearance in game. Obviously it would be quite a lot of work though, not only designing the different characters, but presumably also altering her personality, since people would probably expect her to be at least a little different as a 16 year old vs a 25 year old.

I really don't think they'll do it though, they probably have plans to give a bit more story time to her and Vincent.



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DonFerrari said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Except none of those games are remake though. Maybe he just want the complete story of the original with high end graphic for ps4?

And where does it say he wont get the complete story and more? Making it into more than 1 game don't change that.

The godfather is a single book with no much more than 300 pages, when you watched it as a trilogy did it piss you off that they decided to make 3 movies instead of a single one?

Until the game launches and he plays he can't really say it will be bad because it was made into more than a single entry.

In one single game, not in multi games that take $60 each game and several next years (if lucky) to come out

Did original FFVII for ps1 was in multi parts like this and the story came out from a book that had 300 pages too? If it did, then it could use this excuse because the story source of the original game was too long for just one game, but it didn't. Apple to Orange. Is the god father movie also a remake which has the story breaks into multi parts of the original movie?

Bad or not, this upcoming game doesn't have the full story of the original game, right?



HoangNhatAnh said:

Bad or not, this upcoming game doesn't have the full story of the original game, right?

2 examples:

The original game have plot holes that needs clearing up, like who the hell is Johnny? The game doesn't seem to really elaborate on who Johnny is. We need to stop this Johnny-gate!

There is a whole bunch of Avalanche members, it's not just Barret and co.. If you watch the trailer there is other eco-terrorist there helping stop the plate from falling too.

Good thing the Remake is coming to clear up all the plot holes from the original game.



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Hiku said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Except none of those games are remake though. Maybe he just want the complete story of the original with high end graphic for ps4?

But that's not what this game is. And we've known this since 2015.

If people want a game that never existed and never will, that's fine. But they shouldn't bring it up in every single FF7R thread we have, year in and year out ever since 2015.

I have seen dozens of people still do it again and again in Youtube, Neogaf and Resetera. Clearly they despise the idea of breaking the original story into multi parts

deskpro2k3 said: ly they
HoangNhatAnh said:

Bad or not, this upcoming game doesn't have the full story of the original game, right?

2 examples:

The original game have plot holes that needs clearing up, like who the hell is Johnny? The game doesn't seem to really elaborate on who Johnny is. We need to stop this Johnny-gate!

There is a whole bunch of Avalanche members, it's not just Barret and co.. If you watch the trailer there is othestillr eco-terrorist there helping stop the plate from falling too.

Good thing the Remake is coming to clear up all the plot holes from the original game. 

Those plot holes could be solved by some addition of the background stories, just some add-on side stories for example, easy peasy.



HoangNhatAnh said:

1. I have seen dozens of people still do it again and again in Youtube, Neogaf and Resetera. Clearly they despise the idea of breaking the original story into multi parts

2. Those plot holes could be solved by some addition of the background stories, just some add-on side stories for example, easy peasy

1. Those people from youtube, neogaf, and resetera just want a cheap condense upgrade, because they fail to understand the full scale of the game. Remember FF7 has an entire world map with over a dozen towns, dungeons, small scattered islands, mountainous areas, forest, open fields, and even under water locations. If Square Enix want to release FF7R faster to keep up with the hype without condensing and cutting off content, then they can't fit everything in one installment without taking a very long development time which would risk people forgetting all about the remake and losing all the hype in the process. I don't want to be walking down a corridor and bam a new town, and walk 10sec more and bam a new dungeon. They're going to have to fill those open fields with content, and a remake that simply told the exact same story in the exact same world but with shinier graphics would've been a huge disappointment. There's definitely room for plenty of improvements in the original game. So, it's better to release the remake in parts, add all the extra contents to flesh out the story, and at the sametime keeping the fans hype for the next installment.

2. See above.

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deskpro2k3 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

1. I have seen dozens of people still do it again and again in Youtube, Neogaf and Resetera. Clearly they despise the idea of breaking the original story into multi parts

2. Those plot holes could be solved by some addition of the background stories, just some add-on side stories for example, easy peasy

1. Those people from youtube, neogaf, and resetera just want a cheap condense upgrade, because they fail to understand the full scale of the game. Remember FF7 has an entire world map with over a dozen towns, dungeons, small scattered islands, mountainous areas, forest, open fields, and even under water locations. If Square Enix want to release FF7R faster to keep up with the hype without condensing and cutting off content, then they can't fit everything in one installment without taking a very long development time which would risk people forgetting all about the remake and losing all the hype in the process. I don't want to be walking down a corridor and bam a new town, and walk 10sec more and bam a new dungeon. They're going to have to fill those open fields with content, and a remake that simply told the exact same story in the exact same world but with shinier graphics would've been a huge disappointment. There's definitely room for plenty of improvements in the original game. So, it's better to release the remake in parts, add all the extra contents to flesh out the story, and at the sametime keeping the fans hype for the next installment.

2. See above.

The original was praised as a masterpiece already, but you said it had many plot holes and lacked contents? Then that mean FFVII on ps1 was an incomplete game and basically, a cash grab? Also, maybe the extra story will synchronize perfectly with the original story, just like FFXV add-on plot for example, FFVIIR will be a true beautiful bonus for a good story that many people already love. Perhaps FFVII fans will love the remake even way more for some too amazing extra stories.