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Because as counter-productive as their efforts are, the sack of crap in the oval office must be held accountable for his actions. I'm sure you can agree, regardless of political affiliation.



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Interesting that this impeachment is only hurting Biden's numbers. After all he and his son looted Ukraine and he bragged about getting the "son of a bitch" prosecutor fired with the direct threat of rescinding 1 billion Dollar US taxpayer money.

"well, son of a bitch, he got fired"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Tells you how much some Dems live in a media bubble that they defend this behavior.



AbrahamHamdan said:
thismeintiel said:

The first one was their star "witness," who actually witnessed nothing.  The 2nd is their most credible witness, the only one who had any first hand interactions with Trump concerning this matter.  Both of their arguments were torn to pieces.

Well, if you want to believe the Dems argument that is completely based on presumptions and feelings, not evidence, you can believe in anything you want.  However, if you just want to look at the actual evidence given, that never happened.  The truth is, the Dems are scared to death about 2020.  That's why, just one year out from an election where the people could vote him out if they believe this stuff happened, they are pursuing impeachment.  They are afraid of 100s of thousands, maybe millions, of people like me, Never Trumpers who wouldn't vote for him in 2016, but will vote for him this time.  And his growing support among Black Americans.

you didn't answer... Trump asked foreign country to investiage a political rival... he said it himself... do you agree with that? do you agree with forigen countries middling in our affairs?

Lol, I did answer.  It didn't happen.  Trump asked him to look into the election meddling of 2016, which two Ukrainians were convicted of, and what happened with the prosecutor that Biden had fired.  He wanted to know if he was fired for legit reasons or if there was something fishy going on there.  This was in the nation's interest, especially considering billions of dollars in our foreign aid went missing, and is not illegal, whether Dems want to admit it or not. 

Trump, however, DID NOT say, "Hey, dig up some dirt on Biden because I MIGHT have to run against him in 2020."  Nor did the aid get held up until they did dig up that dirt.  And, it's funny that all of a sudden the Dems care about what happens in Ukraine, when all Obama did was send them first aid kits and blankets, while Trump was sending them tank busting missiles to beat back Russia.  Yet, Trump was the Russian agent.  Oh, wait, that's right, because he was the one caught on a hot mic saying that he could do more to help Russia once he was reelected.  Or was that someone else?

The funny thing here is, even though I dislike Obama, he is actually out there warning the Dems from pursuing this further.  Or moving as far Left as they have been lately.  Even he knows this could blow up in their faces come 2020.



numberwang said:

Interesting that this impeachment is only hurting Biden's numbers. After all he and his son looted Ukraine and he bragged about getting the "son of a bitch" prosecutor fired with the direct threat of rescinding 1 billion Dollar US taxpayer money.

"well, son of a bitch, he got fired"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Tells you how much some Dems live in a media bubble that they defend this behavior.

I know that people like repeating false narratives,  but this whole statement you just made has never been corroborated to be truth and it wasn't US tax money it was allegedly between a China. The main thing that Biden should be guilty of is nepotism with his son getting that job. But then when know Trump supporters don't care about that, the man has his whole family in the White House



thismeintiel said:
AbrahamHamdan said:

you didn't answer... Trump asked foreign country to investiage a political rival... he said it himself... do you agree with that? do you agree with forigen countries middling in our affairs?

Lol, I did answer.  It didn't happen.  Trump asked him to look into the election meddling of 2016, which two Ukrainians were convicted of, and what happened with the prosecutor that Biden had fired.  He wanted to know if he was fired for legit reasons or if there was something fishy going on there.  This was in the nation's interest, especially considering billions of dollars in our foreign aid went missing, and is not illegal, whether Dems want to admit it or not. 

Trump, however, DID NOT say, "Hey, dig up some dirt on Biden because I MIGHT have to run against him in 2020."  Nor did the aid get held up until they did dig up that dirt.  And, it's funny that all of a sudden the Dems care about what happens in Ukraine, when all Obama did was send them first aid kits and blankets, while Trump was sending them tank busting missiles to beat back Russia.  Yet, Trump was the Russian agent.  Oh, wait, that's right, because he was the one caught on a hot mic saying that he could do more to help Russia once he was reelected.  Or was that someone else?

The funny thing here is, even though I dislike Obama, he is actually out there warning the Dems from pursuing this further.  Or moving as far Left as they have been lately.  Even he knows this could blow up in their faces come 2020.

Trump said himself that Ukraine should investigate the Bidens, he also Ask China, and that's in public, which is illegal.

even the most dedicate republican senator "Lindsay Graham" said that what president Trump did is "Wrong", his defense that it's unimpeachable. 

Add to that Mick Mulvaney himself, said it was one of the things that Trump asked about during Ukraine scandel, he went even as far as saying there was a quid pro quo, and then he took it back.

Trump is also, hiding thousands of transcripts and he only released a couple of them, if he is innocent, he should've released them all. he is asking his crew to ignore subpoenas, which is hindering the process even further.

Trump is going out of his way to not release his Tax record, becoming the first president in history not to do so, which tells me that there are some sketchy business going on.

the fact that you guys are ignoring all this and chasing a debunked conspiracy theory is really strange. 



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SpokenTruth said:
numberwang said:

Interesting that this impeachment is only hurting Biden's numbers. After all he and his son looted Ukraine and he bragged about getting the "son of a bitch" prosecutor fired with the direct threat of rescinding 1 billion Dollar US taxpayer money.

"well, son of a bitch, he got fired"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Tells you how much some Dems live in a media bubble that they defend this behavior.

You didn't read anything else in this thread did you?  We already touched on that.  This is making you look bad.

No, the video was not here. This is the most central point. You don't want this to be investigated?

Even more disappointing that Dems are complaining that Trump didn't deliver American weapons into a war zone fast enough. Reverse clown world.



Chris Hu said:
DryHeat said:

I think there are several reasons. First, Democrats are deathly afraid that Trump is going to get reelected next year, second they hate Trump's guts so it feels good to try to "stick it to him". Ironically, this is going to help Republicans in 2020, especially in the house.

There was not one single witness that directly heard Trump demand that the aid be withheld until they investigated Biden. Not a single one. It was all hearsay, assumptions and guesses. You don't impeach a president on hearsay, assumptions and guesses.

Did you actually read the transcript or are you like all the Republicans and want to ignore the truth.  Trump is and was a criminal for most of his life.

Yes I did read it. The favor was in regards to the election meddling in 2016 and had nothing to do with Biden and withholding aid. That meddling, as reported in Politico and the Washington Post, favored the Clinton campaign. Democrats don't get to spend years on a never ending fishing expedition against Trump, and yet get shielded from having their own actions investigated. Each party holds the other accountable. That's how a democracy works.

In any case, support for impeachment is tanking badly because people see there is no crime.



DryHeat said:
Chris Hu said:

Did you actually read the transcript or are you like all the Republicans and want to ignore the truth.  Trump is and was a criminal for most of his life.

Yes I did read it. The favor was in regards to the election meddling in 2016 and had nothing to do with Biden and withholding aid. That meddling, as reported in Politico and the Washington Post, favored the Clinton campaign. Democrats don't get to spend years on a never ending fishing expedition against Trump, and yet get shielded from having their own actions investigated. Each party holds the other accountable. That's how a democracy works.

In any case, support for impeachment is tanking badly because people see there is no crime.

Yeah you didn't read it the impeachment is taking because most Americans love to ignore the facts and the fact is that Trump is and was a criminal for most of his life.



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thismeintiel said:
It's pretty simple really. They're scared to death that he's going to win in 2020 because their candidates aren't very good. So they're going to use the full force of the media and this ridiculous impeachment, with nothing but hearsay and presumptions as their evidence, to try and get him out of office before they have to actually let the American people decide who's president.

You're 1,000% right. They're so scared of losing, they feel the only way to "win" is to use bullshot hearsay as actual evidence. For gods sake.... the extreme left has been crying impeachment literally from day 1, and actually before he even won. Trump derangement syndrome is real and spreading. Its hilarious that arm chair lawyers think they know better. The extreme left went after russia collusion forever, now, it's being flip flopped as quid pro quo, to bribery to whatever fits the moment of the day or minute. This is a sad joke that people lick up. Its dumb as hell.