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shikamaru317 said:
Darashiva said:
Ok, this is a genuine question. I've looked up some reviews and videos of Shenmue III, and I need to ask, was the English voice acting and dialogue made intentionally bad as a callback to the first two games? I mean, something like that was pretty much to be expected in a lot of games in the 90's and early 2000's, but I thought we had moved on from that in the last 15 years. You can actually do better these days, even in very small budget projects. Ryu especially sounds horrible, with every line coming off as awkward and stilted. I know that was the case in the first two games as well, but did they actually make him sound that bad intentionally, or is that really the best they could do? I'm not sure which option would be worse to be honest.

Pretty sure it was intentional, they used the same voice actors for all of the characters who were in Shenmue 1 and 2 as far as I know, and it seems like they purposefully directed them to act the same way they did in the first two games, even if their voice acting skills have improved since then. Everything about this game was designed to be nostalgic and stay true to the originals. That being said, from what I've heard in trailers the English voice acting is definitely an improvement over the first 2 games, even Ryo got a bit better. 

I'm not sure that's really a thing to be so nostalgic about that they should actively make their game worse. 20 years ago it was understandable and mostly expected in Japanese games, but if they are intentionally hampering their own game to appeal to some misguided feeling of nostalgia then I don't really know what to say. There are ways to do callbacks to the older games and use elements from them in a way that doesn't hurt the experience in the new game, and this really isn't it. Maybe it's just something that I don't understand since I have no emotional attachment to the first two games.



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Basically what I expected when I kickstarted. It's a game that's really targeted towards fans of the first two, and they would be disappointed if the game didn't have the same quirks as the original. Combine that with the fact that it has a generally low budget, and I wasn't expecting anything revolutionary. I expected another Shenmue, and it seems like that's exactly what we got.



Jim Sterling's take on things

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d21lewis said:
Jim Sterling's take on things

https://youtu.be/MI9EISn8K0Q

Looks like this is a game with at least 8m+ budget. I am not sure how much SP games cost these days, is this really a low budget game or does it only look like a low budget game?



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d21lewis said:
Jim Sterling's take on things

https://youtu.be/MI9EISn8K0Q

I also watched this one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMg29kfYVr0

Very similar take on the game.



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LurkerJ said:
d21lewis said:
Jim Sterling's take on things

https://youtu.be/MI9EISn8K0Q

Looks like this is a game with at least 8m+ budget. I am not sure how much SP games cost these days, is this really a low budget game or does it only look like a low budget game?

It does look kinda cheap but at the same time I like the way it looks. Pretty colorful and sharp. It's all of the other flaws that are turning me off.

Hiku said:
d21lewis said:
Jim Sterling's take on things

https://youtu.be/MI9EISn8K0Q

I also watched this one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMg29kfYVr0

Very similar take on the game.

Listened to the video while I walked my dog just now. Yeah, I don't think I'll be playing this one. I'm one of those who was wowed by the original game and how it changed my concept of what a game could be. Unfortunately, by the time I got my hands on Shenmue 2 (in 2007), that excitement was gone. It's okay for fans who say "It's more of the same but that's exactly what I wanted!" but it sucks for those of us who wanted some advancement.

The great series throughout history have evolved with time.



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d21lewis said:

Listened to the video while I walked my dog just now.

I do that as well. Feels very time efficient.

d21lewis said:

Yeah, I don't think I'll be playing this one. I'm one of those who was wowed by the original game and how it changed my concept of what a game could be. Unfortunately, by the time I got my hands on Shenmue 2 (in 2007), that excitement was gone. It's okay for fans who say "It's more of the same but that's exactly what I wanted!" but it sucks for those of us who wanted some advancement.

The great series throughout history have evolved with time.

That's something I've been thinking about recently. Some times you can feel burned out on a series even if the sequels take notable steps forward.

For example, I was recommended to play Uncharted 1 &2. I thought Uncharted 1 was alright... An average game. Didn't hate it. Didn't love it.
My friend told me the 2nd one was a lot better, so I played it as well. And I was blown away by how much it improved on things. 
Things that were ok in 1 were now good in 2. And things that were terrible in 1 (like the sixaxis balancing) were removed.
I thought it was a fantastic game, and one of my most memorable gaming experiences.

In spite of that, I had no interest in playing Uncharted 3. Even not knowing what advancements they made with that one, I felt like I had my fill of Uncharted.

So the situation Shenmue 3 is in is interesting to me. Because on top of people possibly already getting burned out on the series in general, it also sounds like it barely attempted to take any steps forward. And that can contribute to the former, where people are not as enamored with 20-year old gameplay, as they were back when it was new.

Makes me wonder how I'd feel about a potential Suikoden 6, or Shadow Hearts 4.
Maybe I'd just be happy that they were made, but I may enjoy them a lot less than I used to.