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DonFerrari on 19 November 2019
thismeintiel said:
Azzanation said:

Why dont you ask the PC gamers which controllers they prefer to game on, since PC has the option for both 360/XB1 and DS4 controllers and you will be suprised. 

Also 3rd party controllers never sell aswell as the stock controllers. That same argument can also be use for Xbox owners who also have the choice between analog placements yet by the stock controllers.

More excuses. If asymmetrical was the vastly preferred way to play, it wouldn't matter if the DS was stock. Gamers would be picking up asymmetrical controllers because it was so much better. As for PC gamers, Xbox controllers have been designed to work easily with PCs, with many games having Xbox prompts, while DS controllers weren't so friendly. Only DS4 was changed to fix this. Interestingly, DS4 is the best selling controller ever. You would think with all of those PC gamers buying XBO controllers it wouldn't even be a contest. Guessing some of them have been buying DS4s, too.

Let's just be honest here. The only reason asymmetrical controllers came about is because MS didn't want to look like they were completely ripping off the DS when they came out with the Xbox. Especially when they redesigned the controller to be smaller. Xbox fans hold onto the false notion that it's better because it's linked with Xbox or they are used to it. If Xbox had a symmetrical controller, you'd probably say it was the best ever.

All this talk doesn't change simple nature. We have symmetrical hands, so a symmetrical controller makes sense. Of course, like I said, most people probably don't give a shit and can adapt.

Some would say PC have sold more than PS4 and Xbox combined, so it would be the biggest marketplace to sell accessories, so with assymetrical being better and Xbox controller being better then with it having PC+Xbox markets to sell to they should run laps around DS4 right?



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pokoko on 19 November 2019
Azzanation said:

Why dont you ask the PC gamers which controllers they prefer to game on, since PC has the option for both 360/XB1 and DS4 controllers and you will be suprised. 

Also 3rd party controllers never sell aswell as the stock controllers. That same argument can also be use for Xbox owners who also have the choice between analog placements yet still buy the stock controllers.

Azzanation said:

DS4 is still not as popular than the Xbox controllers for PC.. so your argument doesn't hold up. If gamers preferred the PS styled analog placements over the asymmetrical design than PC gamers would be flocking to the DS4 controllers, but they don't seem to be, I wonder why? Also PC gamers mostly use Keyboard and Mouse and most times a 360 controller is the 2nd best choice for the audience.

The DS4 is the best selling controller on a platform that has sold the most since the PS2.. do you see a link here? 95% of the PS4 controller options are DS4s so its a no brainer its flying off the shelf with a 100m customers. Controllers don't last forever so PS4 owners will go out and buy another set and that leads to another shit ton of controllers sold due to simply buying extras and replacing the old ones.

Haha you can believe what you want why Xbox went with the asymmetrical design. Many claim the 360 controller to be the best controller design ever made, I don't hear much about PS controllers fitting in that same league. You can say other wise, I don't expect you to agree.

Your last point is another preference opinion. Most games I play, my right thumb is more comfortable on pressing the buttons while also spreading out the analog sticks so I don't feel like my thumbs are going to touch half the time. But hey that's just my opinion.

Hi, there!  PC gamer here.  For years, I used an Xbox style controller as a backup (though I use kb/m 95% of the time).

Why?  

A) Because I wanted to try it, to see if the people who constantly harped on it were right, and B) most importantly, Microsoft had largely cornered the PC controller market, so Xbox style controllers were the most common by far.  Xbox controllers had become the default because Microsoft was able to make them work out of the box.  Most of the games that supported controllers only even offered Xbox controller key assignments.  The argument that Xbox controllers are better because they are more popular on PC is disingenuous.  

I never liked the asymmetrical sticks very much, though.  That line people use, about your "resting thumbs," entirely depends on the person and the way they hold the controller.  One of the principles of ergonomics, since someone decided to bring that up, is that "one size (or design) does NOT fit all."  People are different.   

Then, awhile back, I read a reddit thread where a lot of people were very happy with how well the DS4 worked on PC.  It's pnp on Steam and there is a good software for games not on Steam.  I decided to try it, went out and bought a DS4, and now I'm content with my controller setup on PC.  I can't see myself ever going back to asymmetrical if everything else is equal.

Honestly, I think it's ridiculous that people try to fight other people about which option they should enjoy.  I never see people go up to others and say something like, "hey, you're wrong to think THAT chair is more comfortable, I think THIS chair is more comfortable so you should switch!"  I am more comfortable, both physically and mentally, when my default position is symmetrical.