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Where will Pokemon Sword/Shield metacritic be?

Between 0-50. 2 2.44%
 
Between 51-70. 2 2.44%
 
Between 71-79. 13 15.85%
 
Between 80 6 7.32%
 
Between 81-82 20 24.39%
 
Between 83-84 21 25.61%
 
Between 85-86 10 12.20%
 
Between 87-88 4 4.88%
 
Between 89-90 0 0%
 
Above 90. 4 4.88%
 
Total:82
         

** Betting is CLOSED - all winnings have been paid out by Machina **

 

Where will Pokemon Sword/Shield metacritic be?

Between 0-50. 0 $0.00 0%
 
Between 51-70. 0 $0.00 0%
 
Between 71-79. 4 $1,150.00 15.38%
 
Between 80 1 $1,000.00 3.85%
 
Between 81-82 9 $5,080.00 34.62%
 
Between 83-84 7 $2,470.00 26.92%
 
Between 85-86 1 $0.00 3.85%
 
Between 87-88 3 $160.00 11.54%
 
Between 89-90 0 $0.00 0%
 
Above 90. 1 $100.00 3.85%
 
 
Totals: 26 $9,960.00  
Game closed: 12/31/2019
Xxain said:

My guy, no one is claiming that Pokemon is bad game. You have to disconnect the idea that being failing to meet expectations = bad game. That biggest claim is that Sword and Shield is a rushed, technically underwhelming, outdated product on a very obvious level. The state that Sword and Shield has released in would have been considered to be unexceptable anywhere else. Crystal clear that at very best this game needed more time. At the worst, a new developer. 

You gotta dimwit to think that this is entitlement:

- You mean to tell me that it is entitlement to be unhappy with the National PokeDex cut and a chunk of the move pool "to better focus on animation and quality of models" then get some some of the worst animation, or in the case of the Wingulls at the 1 minute mark, none at all (lol) in the entirety of the 3D Pokemon entries.

- You mean to tell me its entitlement to look at other JRPG's and say those games are nowhere near as big as Pokemon but they have non of these issues and double the care so what it is Pokemon's deal?

- You mean to tell me its entitlement that there is an expectation that Pokemon's first mainline console release drips of the same quality expected as the rest of a Nintendo's major franchises?

- You mean to tell me its entitlement to expect Pokemon's first mainline console entry to be 2 big steps forward and not 3 big steps back?

No one has asked for anything that would be expected of all sequels; to be better.

Point out where I even said entitlement go on you're in your own world ranting on that one, fact is you can't even begin to compare those games he mentioned because the context of why they were bashed is because they were broken messes and bad so getting upset at people not doing the same to Sw/Sh is a reach unless you're trying to equate it to being just as bad, fans aren't bashing Sw/Sh like those games because it's still a good game regardless plain and simple.



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I wonder how many review outlets are going to review this in the end. Right now it has 20 reviews, and the Let's Go games have around 80 each...



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

Wyrdness said:
Xxain said:

My guy, no one is claiming that Pokemon is bad game. You have to disconnect the idea that being failing to meet expectations = bad game. That biggest claim is that Sword and Shield is a rushed, technically underwhelming, outdated product on a very obvious level. The state that Sword and Shield has released in would have been considered to be unexceptable anywhere else. Crystal clear that at very best this game needed more time. At the worst, a new developer. 

You gotta dimwit to think that this is entitlement:

- You mean to tell me that it is entitlement to be unhappy with the National PokeDex cut and a chunk of the move pool "to better focus on animation and quality of models" then get some some of the worst animation, or in the case of the Wingulls at the 1 minute mark, none at all (lol) in the entirety of the 3D Pokemon entries.

- You mean to tell me its entitlement to look at other JRPG's and say those games are nowhere near as big as Pokemon but they have non of these issues and double the care so what it is Pokemon's deal?

- You mean to tell me its entitlement that there is an expectation that Pokemon's first mainline console release drips of the same quality expected as the rest of a Nintendo's major franchises?

- You mean to tell me its entitlement to expect Pokemon's first mainline console entry to be 2 big steps forward and not 3 big steps back?

No one has asked for anything that would be expected of all sequels; to be better.

Point out where I even said entitlement go on you're in your own world ranting on that one, fact is you can't even begin to compare those games he mentioned because the context of why they were bashed is because they were broken messes and bad so getting upset at people not doing the same to Sw/Sh is a reach unless you're trying to equate it to being just as bad, fans aren't bashing Sw/Sh like those games because it's still a good game regardless plain and simple.

The entitlement part was not specifically aimed at you. Sorry. Didnt want to double post but I have been seeing that word thrown around without any warrant or merit



Chrkeller said:
Torillian said:

Oh? where can you go on the internet without any dissenting opinions? I honestly tried to think of it and suggest that when I made the comment but I couldn't think of anywhere where people who like a game are just left to discuss how much they like it. At least nothing with any level of popularity. 

Reddit (and other sites) offer private group chats.  It isn't that hard to have a place where people talk games and leave the bickering at the door.  The constant bickering, which is exactly what is going on in this thread, turns many people off.  Either people can recognize this fact and make changes, or they can continue to drive folks away.  I'm at the point where I don't much care in either direction.  I am currently a member of two aforementioned private chat groups.  I suspect my time here will dwindle quickly.  I'm tired of people repeating their hate over and over.  As if others HAVE to agree and can't possibly just have a differing opinion.  

And you don't view yourself as a part of that bickering in any way? I seem to recall a couple generalizing statements about those "hating on the game" from you. Perhaps if you were more accepting of people disappointed in the game and their opinions the bickering would be lessened, but I guess it's easier to put down those who were disappointed and then complain that they are able to talk about issues with the game in a thread about a game's metacritic score. What would you like everyone to discuss in this metacritic thread if not whether the game deserves the score? Because that's generally been the point of any metacritic thread. 



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Torillian said:
Chrkeller said:

Reddit (and other sites) offer private group chats.  It isn't that hard to have a place where people talk games and leave the bickering at the door.  The constant bickering, which is exactly what is going on in this thread, turns many people off.  Either people can recognize this fact and make changes, or they can continue to drive folks away.  I'm at the point where I don't much care in either direction.  I am currently a member of two aforementioned private chat groups.  I suspect my time here will dwindle quickly.  I'm tired of people repeating their hate over and over.  As if others HAVE to agree and can't possibly just have a differing opinion.  

And you don't view yourself as a part of that bickering in any way? 

In fact I don't.  When there is a game I don't particular care for or it isn't my thing, no I don't run into every single thread trashing it.  I let those who do like it enjoy their discussion.  So no, I don't view myself park of that.  But hey you are the site Admin, your call on how the sites move forward.  Asking people to stop trashing a game in every thread doesn't seem like a huge ask to me.  But again, I'm not in charge.     

@BraLoD, my comment wasn't directed singularly at you.  I should have been more clear, that is on me.  When I said "you all" I wasn't referencing you specifically, I meant the group of folks who have made it their goal to trash the game relentlessly.  But again, I wasn't clear, that is on me.  My apologies.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 17 November 2019

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BraLoD said:
MasonADC said:

I agree, at the end of the day, it is not as serious as the people complaining are making it out to be. If the games are so horrible, just stop talking about them. They’re just video games 

How is a company lying to their customers not serious?

No one was lied too



BraLoD said:
MasonADC said:

No one was lied too

Yes, they were.

Gamefreak used remaking pokemon models and doing better animations as the excuse to answer why where pokemon being cut off the game.

What we saw in the trailers were the same models and animations from the 3DS and when the game released it was instantly datamined proving the models where the same from Sun and Moon.

So yes, they lied.

When the issue first arose, Masuda said that they cut Pokémon because there was in general too many and they wanted high quality animations. The first par is subjective, but a lot of moves has way better animations and models in general move way better. Also, let’s not act like tweeks didn’t have to be made to the models at all for stuff like the overworld 



Xxain said:

What!? It is mindsets like this that got us this Pokemon game and not the one we should of got. It is mindsets like this that persuade this industry to continue to give less for more.

Bruh what are you doing? Game Freak is the one ultimately responsible, direct your ire at them. Just like how complaining about criticism is pointless, so too is complaining about people freely buying what they want.

Chrkeller said:

Reddit (and other sites) offer private group chats.  It isn't that hard to have a place where people talk games and leave the bickering at the door.  The constant bickering, which is exactly what is going on in this thread, turns many people off.  Either people can recognize this fact and make changes, or they can continue to drive folks away.  I'm at the point where I don't much care in either direction.  I am currently a member of two aforementioned private chat groups.  I suspect my time here will dwindle quickly.  I'm tired of people repeating their hate over and over.  As if others HAVE to agree and can't possibly just have a differing opinion.  

"Lol, Pokemon hate still cracks me up. Can't wait till this gets reviewed well and sells through the roof. Day 1 here. 400 Pokemon is plenty, gamers itch like no other demographic."

"Movements tend to have an impact. In this case S/S is being received well and will sell millions. There was no movement. Don't confuse a legitimate movement with a bunch of internet whiny itches. "

Yep you sound like someone who has no problem with differing opinions and definitely isn't the instigator here. Calling people who have a different view bitches is a sure way to create meaningful discussions and an inviting environment!



MasonADC said:
BraLoD said:

Yes, they were.

Gamefreak used remaking pokemon models and doing better animations as the excuse to answer why where pokemon being cut off the game.

What we saw in the trailers were the same models and animations from the 3DS and when the game released it was instantly datamined proving the models where the same from Sun and Moon.

So yes, they lied.

When the issue first arose, Masuda said that they cut Pokémon because there was in general too many and they wanted high quality animations. The first par is subjective, but a lot of moves has way better animations and models in general move way better. Also, let’s not act like tweeks didn’t have to be made to the models at all for stuff like the overworld 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Y2v-SMMYM

Just as a counterpoint to some of the cherry picking going on.  Some of the models and animations at least are clearly far better than what was found on the 3DS.  Obviously not every single animation is going to be a priority.  For example, when they show double kick in the video posted earlier.  Obviously a weak move that few people are actually going to use that often is not going to be a priority, whereas signature moves for the starters and legendaries were.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFUzfck4oI

And there are some comparisons between the game and Let's Go.  My little brother bought the game for me, and it's downloading, so I'll have the chance to see for myself, but basically it looks like an incremental upgrade from Let's Go... which is about what I think ought to be expected?  I mean, there's an argument to be made that the graphics for the series weren't that good to begin with, but if you've been ok with them till now, I honestly can't see how this entry is anything egregious.  Just kind of seems to me like people are upset about the cut Pokemon so they're looking for other things to attack.



JWeinCom said:
MasonADC said:

When the issue first arose, Masuda said that they cut Pokémon because there was in general too many and they wanted high quality animations. The first par is subjective, but a lot of moves has way better animations and models in general move way better. Also, let’s not act like tweeks didn’t have to be made to the models at all for stuff like the overworld 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Y2v-SMMYM

Just as a counterpoint to some of the cherry picking going on.  Some of the models and animations at least are clearly far better than what was found on the 3DS.  Obviously not every single animation is going to be a priority.  For example, when they show double kick in the video posted earlier.  Obviously a weak move that few people are actually going to use that often is not going to be a priority, whereas signature moves for the starters and legendaries were.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFUzfck4oI

And there are some comparisons between the game and Let's Go.  My little brother bought the game for me, and it's downloading, so I'll have the chance to see for myself, but basically it looks like an incremental upgrade from Let's Go... which is about what I think ought to be expected?  I mean, there's an argument to be made that the graphics for the series weren't that good to begin with, but if you've been ok with them till now, I honestly can't see how this entry is anything egregious.  Just kind of seems to me like people are upset about the cut Pokemon so they're looking for other things to attack.

Yeah I really thought it was weird that the Donkey poke'mon has a signature kick move with a kicking animation, but when he does the doublekick fighting move he doesn't just do that animation twice. Instead he just does a 2 inch jump into the air. Also Scorbunny has an animation in his Poke'dex profile that could have been used for the doublekick move. 

The best explaination I can think of is that Gamefreak might want to keep some of the old animations for nostolgia's sake. Kind of like how we still hear digitized Poke'mon screams, instead of smoother sound files. If true, then criticizing Poke'mon for lazy animations would be as silly as criticizing Dragonquest for 8 bit sound effects. 

But that's just a theory, and we'd have to ask the developers.