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curl-6 said:

Xbone's basically guaranteed to win this one, as I think PS3 only made it to a little over 26 million total. Still, the fact they're this close shows how much ground Xbox lost this gen, even in its home territory, only beating out last gen's third place by a few million.

As I noted in the article the Xbox One is just over 1 million away at the end of October 2019 from outselling the lifetime sales of the PS3. It will win the battle by the end of the year with ease. 



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Regarding new charts we could do, have we done PS4 vs Wii in Japan, 360 vs PS4 in NA, or Switch vs PSP in Japan yet?



You can read the complete Article #16 and Analysis here:

PS4 Vs. X360 US:

Gap change in latest month: 206,075 – X360

Gap change over last 12 months: 2,671,263 – X360

Total Lead: 1,525,064 – PS4

X360 Total Sales: 28,823,923

PS4 Total Sales: 30,348,987



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curl-6 said:

Regarding new charts we could do, have we done PS4 vs Wii in Japan, 360 vs PS4 in NA, or Switch vs PSP in Japan yet?

PS4 vs Wii in Japan is not really that relevant. PS4 sales have dropped a lot and it is currently still over 4 million in sales away from the Wii. 



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trunkswd said:

You can read the complete Article #16 and Analysis here:

PS4 Vs. X360 US:

Gap change in latest month: 206,075 – X360

Gap change over last 12 months: 2,671,263 – X360

Total Lead: 1,525,064 – PS4

X360 Total Sales: 28,823,923

PS4 Total Sales: 30,348,987

Very interesting, I wasn't aware 360 was closing the gap, much less by 2.6 million in the last year.

Should be a fascinating race to watch from this point on; the platform totals page has Xbox 360 at 49 million in NA, not sure how much of that is in the US though.

EDIT: Nvm just read the article; "The Xbox 360 sold 45.14 million units lifetime in the US. The PlayStation 4 needs to sell another 14.79 million units to surpass the Xbox 360 in the US."



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curl-6 said:

Very interesting, I wasn't aware 360 was closing the gap, much less by 2.6 million in the last year.

Should be a fascinating race to watch from this point on; the platform totals page has Xbox 360 at 49 million in NA, not sure how much of that is in the US though.

EDIT: Nvm just read the article; "The Xbox 360 sold 45.14 million units lifetime in the US. The PlayStation 4 needs to sell another 14.79 million units to surpass the Xbox 360 in the US."

The Xbox 360 is most likely going to win this battle by the end. Unless the PS5 launches at a really high price and Sony faulters at its launch like they did with the PS3. If they do that the PS4 will have better legs. However, I don't see them messing up like they did with the PS3. 



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curl-6 said:
trunkswd said:

You can read the complete Article #16 and Analysis here:

PS4 Vs. X360 US:

Gap change in latest month: 206,075 – X360

Gap change over last 12 months: 2,671,263 – X360

Total Lead: 1,525,064 – PS4

X360 Total Sales: 28,823,923

PS4 Total Sales: 30,348,987

Very interesting, I wasn't aware 360 was closing the gap, much less by 2.6 million in the last year.

Should be a fascinating race to watch from this point on; the platform totals page has Xbox 360 at 49 million in NA, not sure how much of that is in the US though.

EDIT: Nvm just read the article; "The Xbox 360 sold 45.14 million units lifetime in the US. The PlayStation 4 needs to sell another 14.79 million units to surpass the Xbox 360 in the US."

This holiday season will be a bloodbath

360 did 3.4 million in Nov+Dec 2011 NPD while PS4 will probably be half of that (~2.3m last year).



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

Very interesting, I wasn't aware 360 was closing the gap, much less by 2.6 million in the last year.

Should be a fascinating race to watch from this point on; the platform totals page has Xbox 360 at 49 million in NA, not sure how much of that is in the US though.

EDIT: Nvm just read the article; "The Xbox 360 sold 45.14 million units lifetime in the US. The PlayStation 4 needs to sell another 14.79 million units to surpass the Xbox 360 in the US."

This holiday season will be a bloodbath

360 did 3.4 million in Nov+Dec 2011 NPD while PS4 will probably be half of that (~2.3m last year).

Yeah the gap is going to shrink fast in November and December. PS4 sales are continuing the downward trend year-over-year. The Kinect did an amazing job in extending the lifespan of the Xbox 360, while it hurt sales for the Xbox One. 



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trunkswd said:
zorg1000 said:

This holiday season will be a bloodbath

360 did 3.4 million in Nov+Dec 2011 NPD while PS4 will probably be half of that (~2.3m last year).

Yeah the gap is going to shrink fast in November and December. PS4 sales are continuing the downward trend year-over-year. The Kinect did an amazing job in extending the lifespan of the Xbox 360, while it hurt sales for the Xbox One. 

Kinect could have been fine on Xbox One but it was handled incredibly poorly.

Kinect launched at $149 standalone or $299 for 360+Kinect in Nov 2010 and by holiday 2011 these had deals for $99/$199.

Kinect sold 24 million in a little over 2 years, these people who purchased a Kinect/Kinect bundle for $99-299 from Nov 2010-Feb 2013 were not the same demographic to buy a $499 console.

It was too soon and too expensive for the Kinect audience to move on.



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zorg1000 said:
trunkswd said:

Yeah the gap is going to shrink fast in November and December. PS4 sales are continuing the downward trend year-over-year. The Kinect did an amazing job in extending the lifespan of the Xbox 360, while it hurt sales for the Xbox One. 

Kinect could have been fine on Xbox One but it was handled incredibly poorly.

Kinect launched at $149 standalone or $299 for 360+Kinect in Nov 2010 and by holiday 2011 these had deals for $99/$199.

Kinect sold 24 million in a little over 2 years, these people who purchased a Kinect/Kinect bundle for $99-299 from Nov 2010-Feb 2013 were not the same demographic to buy a $499 console.

It was too soon and too expensive for the Kinect audience to move on.

If the Xbox One launched for $399 without a Kinect and kept the $499 bundle with Kinect the Xbox One would have had a stronger start in its early years and overall could have increased its lifetime sales. Would it be at PS4 numbers? Not a chance, but it could have meant more exclusives and LT now at over 50 million. Microsoft messed up big time at the launch for the Xbox One with its mixed messages. 



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