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JRPGfan on 11 November 2019
outlawauron said:
JRPGfan said:

The problem is china owes so much of the USA's debt, and keeps lending money to the USA, who has a consumerismist lifestyle, that would have to change drastically if you did as you suggested. The US would litterly have to change its ways (of life) for what your saying to be doable.

Im scared to think what the world economy would look like after such a thing too.
If the US and China both give each other huge bloodly wounds, and hurt one anothers economy...... what happends to the them? the rest of the world?

Eh, it's a large number but still in the 10-12% of total debt. US citizens owe a vast majority of its debt.

I'm not sure advocating for an actual trade war (rather than the small jabs the US is currently exchanging with China) would be very good. Trump certainly wouldn't do it before an election.

Havnt been on for a few days.... Saw this and googled it.
Aparently its abit over 19%, going by thoughtco.com & google result listed 1st.

Its alot of money.



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The_Yoda on 14 November 2019
konnichiwa said:
VAMatt said:

Are you trolling, or do you honestly believe that it's good for governments to legally limit the amount of time people can spend doing a peaceful, victimless activity?

But this is asia, it isn't that victimless.  We literally had another story this week that a teen died:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7650671/Video-game-addict-17-slumped-dead-computer-Thailand.html

South Korea also have/had a similar measure because I remember very well that a child was angry because he could not play a game because of the time.

Video game addiction exist but in my experience it is limited in the West while it isn't that hard to find horrible cases in asia. 

I don't like the measure but something must be done but no goverment has the right answer, especially not an answer gamers on a gamer forum will like =p. 

In this case, the child just continues to play on his parents account after 90 minutes and if something happens like spending a ton of money the parents are liable

Admittedly I didn't read the article because I am no going to whitelist their site but how is a Stroke the fault of a Video Game?  Correlation is not causation last I checked ... If I missed something that explained it in the article please correct me.



The_Yoda on 14 November 2019
fatslob-:O said:
VAMatt said:

The prosperity you speak of back then may well be achievable by the Chinese system.  But, it's not something any reasonable, modern citizen of planet Earth would consider a prosperous society.  Yes, the Romans were victorious in many battles, so the warrior class and elites of society were able to rape many women and take many slaves.  They were also able to pillage all kinds of resources from the conquered people.  But, the vast majority of people lived in relative squalor. 

I don't doubt that the Chinese system will be able to bring about a good life for the elites.  They'll be able to rape, murder, and steal to their heart's content, while the average person is unable to find clear air to breathe while peddling their bike to their sweatshop gig.  

@Bold It's getting harder everyday to make that argument as China uses it's concerted effort to technologically bridge the gap against western civilizations and in some cases surpass them like we see with 5G ... 

How are we supposed to count on the free world when they are making a fatal mistake of becoming reliant on strategically important technology from a hostile foreign nation ?

There is always going to be elites and the lower classes. That has never been the problem since elites can be potentially used to make big contributions to the development of a civilization. For the Romans, it was militaristic elites who were able to make the continued expansion of their empire. For the current Chinese state, it is their technocratic elites who were able to create an industrial powerhouse state ... 

Once the Chinese crack the secret behind genetic manipulation and use it on their public, life will be undoubtedly superior for their 'oppressed' demographics even compared to the citizens of the free world ... 

Ka-pi96 said:

You mean... perpetually in the shadow of Europe? Sure, as a European I hope for that too!

You mean the same Europe that's subscribing to Huawei who's an arm of Chinese intelligence ?

Not disagreeing with all your points but don't you think it more likely they will steal said secrets like they have so much else? Do you not see them as a problem or are you just playing devil's advocate?



JWeinCom on 14 November 2019
The_Yoda said:
konnichiwa said:

But this is asia, it isn't that victimless.  We literally had another story this week that a teen died:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7650671/Video-game-addict-17-slumped-dead-computer-Thailand.html

South Korea also have/had a similar measure because I remember very well that a child was angry because he could not play a game because of the time.

Video game addiction exist but in my experience it is limited in the West while it isn't that hard to find horrible cases in asia. 

I don't like the measure but something must be done but no goverment has the right answer, especially not an answer gamers on a gamer forum will like =p. 

In this case, the child just continues to play on his parents account after 90 minutes and if something happens like spending a ton of money the parents are liable

Admittedly I didn't read the article because I am no going to whitelist their site but how is a Stroke the fault of a Video Game?  Correlation is not causation last I checked ... If I missed something that explained it in the article please correct me.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/24/doctors-warn-of-eye-stroke-after-man-blinded-by-phone-games/

Some people think it can cause a stroke in the eye... but it's questionable.



Zoombael on 14 November 2019

Looks like it's mainly aimed at online/mobile games and their "virtual goods".

Thats ok.



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fatslob-:O on 14 November 2019
The_Yoda said:

Not disagreeing with all your points but don't you think it more likely they will steal said secrets like they have so much else? Do you not see them as a problem or are you just playing devil's advocate?

No there are actually conditions unique to China that gives them an advantage in terms of scientific innovation! 

China is one of the more progressive states when it comes to their methods of scientific experimentation. China is well positioned to eventually win the AI technology race because their nation has nearly no restrictions when it comes to data collection compared to many of the western liberal democracies out there which limits the development of AI technology in the long-term. The scale of their market means that they are big enough to subsidize the capitally intensive technology like trail transport and telecommunications technology ... 

Eventually all these things together will give China a distorting advantage in the future when it comes to biotechnology ... 

If the western world or the "free world" as some people would have it keeps denying themselves the opportunity at every turn to advance humanity altogether then why should they deserve to keep being at the forefront of advanced civilization ? Have you ever considered the thought that it might be the western liberal democracies who are the barbaric nations instead of China who has a real possibility of technologically obsoleting us ? 



outlawauron on 20 November 2019
JRPGfan said:
outlawauron said:

Eh, it's a large number but still in the 10-12% of total debt. US citizens owe a vast majority of its debt.

I'm not sure advocating for an actual trade war (rather than the small jabs the US is currently exchanging with China) would be very good. Trump certainly wouldn't do it before an election.

Havnt been on for a few days.... Saw this and googled it.
Aparently its abit over 19%, going by thoughtco.com & google result listed 1st.

Its alot of money.

Sorry for the late reply, but this was from 2018:

It's much less than I thought, but it's a more of a product of the overall debt increasing without an major increase in foreign-held debt.



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