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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo Tops 750 Million Hardware

Wow congrats to Nintendo. And that's not even including everything such as Game & Watch, Virtual Boy, etc. 1Bn is probably 2.5 gens away if this Switch thing works out.



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trunkswd said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

I know they need some generations, but should still be able to reach this goal. Unless they stop making console next gen which i don't see why they would...

I agree. I expect a Switch 2 next generation. Nintendo loves releasing 2 platforms back to back with similar names. NES to SNES. Game Boy to Game Boy Advance. Wii to Wii U. DS to 3DS. 

N64 to Gamecube is the outlier, should have called it Nintendo 128.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Most impressive. I don't think they will ever hit 1 billion though. I really do think the tenth generation (PlayStation 6) will be the final hardware generation of gaming. Different gaming PCs and cloud devices will kill off traditional platforms by then.
The Switch can probably bring Nintendo up to 800 million, but no guarantee.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 151 million (was 73, then 96, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 57 million (was 60 million, then 67 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

"Let go your earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind." - Guru Laghima

Hold on a muh-fuggin second...

Is that image of the big 3's financials showing "profits". Too bad it doesn't go past 2011. Did Sony's profits after 2011 for the PS3 offset their losses? That is absolutely insane to me.

Take 1998, for example, which had Sony's most successful year on this chart at just over a billion. Is this to say that Sony's profit in 1998 is roughly five times better than their profits in every other year of this chart combined?

I remember the PS3 having a rough start, but it did manage good sales by the end. How did this happen?



RaptorChrist said:
Hold on a muh-fuggin second...

Is that image of the big 3's financials showing "profits". Too bad it doesn't go past 2011. Did Sony's profits after 2011 for the PS3 offset their losses? That is absolutely insane to me.

Take 1998, for example, which had Sony's most successful year on this chart at just over a billion. Is this to say that Sony's profit in 1998 is roughly five times better than their profits in every other year of this chart combined?

I remember the PS3 having a rough start, but it did manage good sales by the end. How did this happen?

Bold: Oh, no, no. Sony lost a lot money on every console sold for several years. When you couple that with blu ray losses being lumped together with PlayStation losses you're set for disastrous financial reports.

At least the failures of PS3 helped make PS4 a great success. So it's not all bad, I guess.



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Dulfite said:
Agente42 said:

I think what matters is how much each company has profited from year to year. Comparing this is more important than console selling (which can be sold at a loss) or selling first party games. Take the years that nintendo and sony are in the market together. I believe that only on the Wii and DS did nintendo earn more than every year of sony combined. Can anyone tell if it checks? I'm just talking about the games division and net profit.

This isn't updated through now, at least anywhere I can find, but this should give you an idea of how Nintendo dominates the other two in profit. Also this is why people say Nintendo could have like 5-7 Wii U level disasters before running out of money. They are a very conservative company on expenses, whereas the other two spend like crazy.

Those peak Wii/DS years, my GAH!!



Pretty incredible achievements for Nintendo, the only active hardware company in the industry that has endured the majority of generations in video game history. From the arcades to the 8-bit era to the rise of 3D graphics to the complexities of the HD/Blu-Ray era and, soon, the 4K-8K era.

People say that the PlayStation brand is, currently, the strongest in the industry. Maybe so, but I don't think Nintendo's brand is far behind and its possibly matching the PS brand at this moment with the Switch dominating worldwide as of now. Its closing in on Xbox One's LTD sales (which dates back to 2013 compared to Switch's 2017 launch).

Part of it revolves around Nintendo's IPs, which are the hallmark of Nintendo's business. While most franchises (even some of Nintendo's lesser known IPs) have come and gone, Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros., etc. have continued to endure for 20+ years. Being able to reinvent these franchises and reach new audiences is nothing short of incredible. Then you have other IPs like Wii Sports, Splatoon, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Xenoblade, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, among others that diversify Nintendo's lineup and provide unique experiences within that brand and audience.



Here is the Mario breakdown.

2D Mario - 246.65 million
Mario Kart - 138.18 million
3D Mario - 82.89 million
Mario Party - 51.60 million
Mario Sports - 28.76 million
Mario & Sonic - 21.55 million
Mario & Luigi - 14.87 million
Dr Mario - 11.49 million
Mario Maker - 11.34 million
Paper Mario - 10.37 million
Other* - 13.70~ million

*These include Mario Paint, Mario vs DK, Mario RPG, Mario+Rabbids and other smaller single entry titles.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
Dulfite said:

This isn't updated through now, at least anywhere I can find, but this should give you an idea of how Nintendo dominates the other two in profit. Also this is why people say Nintendo could have like 5-7 Wii U level disasters before running out of money. They are a very conservative company on expenses, whereas the other two spend like crazy.

Those peak Wii/DS years, my GAH!!

Yeah they are insane. I'm going to do some digging and figure out if there is an updated chart somewhere for after 2011.



Since people seem to be interested in that chart I provided through 2011, here is a more updated one through 2013:

https://images.app.goo.gl/kb39uDBY7oDnT3ty9