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I am still amazed just what last year there were still people who didn't think the PS4 would pass 100 million smh......anyway grat job Sony with the PS4.....well deserved sales



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TheBlackNaruto said:
I am still amazed just what last year there were still people who didn't think the PS4 would pass 100 million smh......anyway grat job Sony with the PS4.....well deserved sales

They knew, they just didnt want to admit it



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TheBlackNaruto said:
I am still amazed just what last year there were still people who didn't think the PS4 would pass 100 million smh......anyway grat job Sony with the PS4.....well deserved sales

I'm never amazed at lowballed predictions anymore. My extensive time on this site afforded me plenty of opportunities to see misguided folks, especially between '08 and '10. :)



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
I am still amazed just what last year there were still people who didn't think the PS4 would pass 100 million smh......anyway grat job Sony with the PS4.....well deserved sales

I'm never amazed at lowballed predictions anymore. My extensive time on this site afforded me plenty of opportunities to see misguided folks. :)

I've seen plenty of predictions going in the other direction as well. I remember some people saying the PS Vita will be able to compete with the 3DS before the two handhelds came out due to the launch price being identical. I will admit I was one of them.



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trunkswd said:
CGI-Quality said:

I'm never amazed at lowballed predictions anymore. My extensive time on this site afforded me plenty of opportunities to see misguided folks. :)

I've seen plenty of predictions going in the other direction as well. I remember some people saying the PS Vita will be able to compete with the 3DS before the two handhelds came out due to the launch price being identical. I will admit I was one of them.

I actually always thought the 3DS would comfortably outsell it. That's just a turf Nintendo has little trouble dominating on. Like Sony with home consoles, unless they screw up royally, I think they're likely to win by default. However, yes, I've seen some pretty bad overestimations as well.



                                                                                                                                            

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trunkswd said:
CGI-Quality said:

I'm never amazed at lowballed predictions anymore. My extensive time on this site afforded me plenty of opportunities to see misguided folks. :)

I've seen plenty of predictions going in the other direction as well. I remember some people saying the PS Vita will be able to compete with the 3DS before the two handhelds came out due to the launch price being identical. I will admit I was one of them.

Well, no one saw Nintendo dropping the 3DS by $80 just a few months from launch.  Add in not wanting to believe the HH market shrank because of mobile, and it's easy to see why some of us predicted that.



thismeintiel said:
trunkswd said:

I've seen plenty of predictions going in the other direction as well. I remember some people saying the PS Vita will be able to compete with the 3DS before the two handhelds came out due to the launch price being identical. I will admit I was one of them.

Well, no one saw Nintendo dropping the 3DS by $80 just a few months from launch.  Add in not wanting to believe the HH market shrank because of mobile, and it's easy to see why some of us predicted that.

Idk, DS selling nearly double PSP should have made anyone hesitant in predicting the two would sell similar numbers.



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zorg1000 said:
thismeintiel said:

Well, no one saw Nintendo dropping the 3DS by $80 just a few months from launch.  Add in not wanting to believe the HH market shrank because of mobile, and it's easy to see why some of us predicted that.

Idk, DS selling nearly double PSP should have made anyone hesitant in predicting the two would sell similar numbers.

Not when the original scenario had a much more powerful Vita launching at the same price as the weaker 3DS.  Nintendo knew that wasn't going to be an ideal battle, so dropped the price so low, the power difference didn't really matter anymore.  And, like I said, the HH market shrinking incredibly meant there wasn't even room for two HHs to do good numbers.



thismeintiel said:
zorg1000 said:

Idk, DS selling nearly double PSP should have made anyone hesitant in predicting the two would sell similar numbers.

Not when the original scenario had a much more powerful Vita launching at the same price as the weaker 3DS.  Nintendo knew that wasn't going to be an ideal battle, so dropped the price so low, the power difference didn't really matter anymore.  And, like I said, the HH market shrinking incredibly meant there wasn't even room for two HHs to do good numbers.

The power difference in general never mattered, the 30 year history of Nintendo handhelds proves that.

So Vita was going to outsell 3DS if it stayed at $250 but the price cut to $170 caused it to sell almost 5x as much Vita? That one move changed things so much that it was going to have over 50% marketshare but ended up with only 17.5% marketshare?

That just doesnt add up. You could argue it would have fared better without the big price cut, maybe similar marketshare that PSP got (34.4%) but there is no way such a huge shift was going to happen when you consider that the biggest handheld franchises like Pokemon, Animal Crossing & Monster Hunter were already announced for 3DS well before Vita even released.

The price cut had little to do with Vita and had alot more to do with the fact that it had a terrible post-launch drought causing sales were slow. The price cut absolutely helped things in a big way but sales were going to pick up even without it when Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 & Monster Hunter Tri all released just weeks apart in Fall 2011 and had a steady stream of big games from that point onward.



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zorg1000 said:
thismeintiel said:

Not when the original scenario had a much more powerful Vita launching at the same price as the weaker 3DS.  Nintendo knew that wasn't going to be an ideal battle, so dropped the price so low, the power difference didn't really matter anymore.  And, like I said, the HH market shrinking incredibly meant there wasn't even room for two HHs to do good numbers.

The power difference in general never mattered, the 30 year history of Nintendo handhelds proves that.

So Vita was going to outsell 3DS if it stayed at $250 but the price cut to $170 caused it to sell almost 5x as much Vita? That one move changed things so much that it was going to have over 50% marketshare but ended up with only 17.5% marketshare?

That just doesnt add up. You could argue it would have fared better without the big price cut, maybe similar marketshare that PSP got (34.4%) but there is no way such a huge shift was going to happen when you consider that the biggest handheld franchises like Pokemon, Animal Crossing & Monster Hunter were already announced for 3DS well before Vita even released.

The price cut had little to do with Vita and had alot more to do with the fact that it had a terrible post-launch drought causing sales were slow. The price cut absolutely helped things in a big way but sales were going to pick up even without it when Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 & Monster Hunter Tri all released just weeks apart in Fall 2011 and had a steady stream of big games from that point onward.

Apparently, Nintendo didn't agree with your assessment of the situation, so did a huge cut shortly after launch.  If they thought sales were going to explode after those games came out, regardless of the Vita, there would have been absolutely no reason to cut the price so much so shortly after release, and not long before the Vita launched.