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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 worldwide shipments tops 102.8M, becomes second best-selling home game console of all time

Evilms on 30 October 2019
Radek said:
Evilms said:

The PS3 almost made a billion, it stopped at 999.4 million.

https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/data.html

PlayStation®3 More than 999.4 million
(As of March 31, 2019)

Stupid Sony stopped counting PS3 before it hit 1 billion!

Unfortunately yes

Top 20 of all time

  1. PS2 : 155.1 million
  2. DS : 154.02 million
  3. PS4 : 102.8 million
  4. PS1 : 102.49 million
  5. Wii : 101.63 million
  6. PS3 : 87.4 million
  7. 360 : 84 million
  8. PSP : 82 million
  9. GBA : 81.51 million
  10. 3DS : 75.28 million
  11. Gameboy : 64.42 million
  12. NES : 61.91 million
  13. Gameboy Color : 54.27 million
  14. Super NES : 49.1 million
  15. Xbox One : 46.9 million
  16. Game & Watch : 43.4 million
  17. Switch : 36.87 million
  18. N64 : 32.93 million
  19. Mega Drive : 29.54 million
  20. A2600 : 27.64 million


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PortisheadBiscuit on 30 October 2019
Evilms said:
Radek said:

Stupid Sony stopped counting PS3 before it hit 1 billion!

Unfortunately yes

Top 20 of all time

  1. PS2 : 155.1 million
  2. DS : 154.02 million
  3. PS4 : 102.8 million
  4. PS1 : 102.49 million
  5. Wii : 101.63 million
  6. PS3 : 87.4 million
  7. 360 : 84 million
  8. PSP : 82 million
  9. GBA : 81.51 million
  10. 3DS : 75.28 million
  11. Gameboy : 64.42 million
  12. NES : 61.91 million
  13. Gameboy Color : 54.27 million
  14. Super NES : 49.1 million
  15. Xbox One : 46.9 million
  16. Game & Watch : 43.4 million
  17. Switch : 36.87 million
  18. N64 : 32.93 million
  19. Mega Drive : 29.54 million
  20. A2600 : 27.64 million

The Gameboy shade lol



TruckOSaurus on 30 October 2019

Congratulations to the PS4 on this achievement! Seeing those numbers, it really shows how special the PS2's 155m is. The PS4 won't come close to it (unless they royally screw up the PS5 launch like they did the PS3).



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kazuyamishima on 30 October 2019

Lowering the forecast only means they are not going to do a price cut.

Damm 6 years later and the systems stills cost $299/399.



Trumpstyle on 30 October 2019

Hmm shipments down almost 30% YoY.

Are we looking at 115-120mil lifetime sales for the PS4?



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Trumpstyle on 30 October 2019
thismeintiel said:

What's with all the overshiped talk? I can understand if they only shipped like 1M-1.5M units this past quarter. But, they shipped almost 3M units. In a slower part of the year. Stores aren't taking that much stock. I think it's pretty obvious that sales are just dropping because we are close to marking the 3-year point of PlayStation 4 not getting any price cuts.

As for the adjusted forecast, I'm guessing we're not getting a price cut this year. I suppose they're going to wait till next year to drop it buy $100.

Dropping price I don't think make much sense, sales will probably barely increase and Sony will lose a lot of profit doing so, it's coming to an end. Let's w8 for next-gen :)



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Alby_da_Wolf on 31 October 2019

Maybe we'll see a lower priced PS4 when it will be the entry level Sony console and need a wider difference from PS5. By then it will be dirt cheap to build, even more if they'll make a super slim version.



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Keiji on 02 November 2019
Trumpstyle said:
Hmm shipments down almost 30% YoY.

Are we looking at 115-120mil lifetime sales for the PS4?

131,5M



Farsala on 02 November 2019
zorg1000 said:
Looks like i was right in saying they overshipped last quarter (Q1-flat, Q2-down ~28%).

With that said, these are still great numbers, over 100 million hardware and over 1 billion software is a huge achievement and their subscription services are showing solid growth.

Not sure I entirely agree.

SW was also flat/ up YoY for the PS4 in Q1. But Q2 saw a drastic drop (-18%) in SW sales. I don't think SW can be overshipped, so I think it lines up well with the HW also being shipped flat YoY. Sure Sony might have shipped a few 100k or so extra for the 100m, but I wouldn't really call it overshipped.



thismeintiel on 03 November 2019
Radek said:

I think they will announce the price cut to $199 for SLIM 1 TB and $299 for Pro 1 TB when they announce PS5 in February.

That would be a good point to do it.  Announce it in Feb, but drop it after the FY, which could lead to them predicting shipments being flat for next FY, or just slightly down.  All I know is that they have to be making a killing on HW sales.  They probably make a small profit with the $199 BF deals, but they have been selling it for $299 for almost 3 year, now.  Maybe storing up profits since they are going to take a decent sized loss ($100-$150) on PS5 HW. 

Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:
Looks like i was right in saying they overshipped last quarter (Q1-flat, Q2-down ~28%).

With that said, these are still great numbers, over 100 million hardware and over 1 billion software is a huge achievement and their subscription services are showing solid growth.

Not sure I entirely agree.

SW was also flat/ up YoY for the PS4 in Q1. But Q2 saw a drastic drop (-18%) in SW sales. I don't think SW can be overshipped, so I think it lines up well with the HW also being shipped flat YoY. Sure Sony might have shipped a few 100k or so extra for the 100m, but I wouldn't really call it overshipped.

Good point and I definitely agree.  There's only so much Sony can do to try to convince people to take extra stock.  Retailers aren't just going to have boxes upon boxes laying around, unless they are ramping up for Xmas, which definitely wasn't the case.  And I really don't see Sony worrying about that at this point.  Would it really matter if they announced 100M shipped then, or had to announce it just a week or so later?  I don't think so. 

It's just a slow time of the year.  People are saving up for Xmas, where they can get the PS4 for $199.  And the amount of gamers who will buy it for $299 is just reaching a saturation point.