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JRPGfan said:
Diablo 4 would have to go back to its roots, and pretend Diablo 3 didnt happend, for me to get excited about it.

I want skill trees + character builds back, and want more meaningfull item choices than D3 had.
In D3 every item was built like item level x = x amount of stats, only differnt between them is which attributes.
The uniques and set armors were boring lazy work... Which is how most of diablo 3 felt to me.

This. The simplifying the skills/character building was a detriment to Diablo 3's replay-ability for me... That and the maps weren't truly randomly generated, so you weren't getting a "Different experience" every play through.

Diablo is the type of game where you make multiple run throughs, it needs to be kept interesting and fresh as much as possible.

The bright side is... I did make a sizable profit on the game thanks to the Auction house before they threw that away, so it wasn't a total loss.

The Art style needs to get back to being dark and gritty as well, not the cartoonish style that plagues it's current titles.

ruffy37 said:

I own ow on pc but never played it more than 1 hour, I got bored to death in that 1 hour. ow2 would be, at least for me, the wrong way to rekindle my interest. they should extend the old game with new maps, mechanics, heroes and crossplay.

Overwatch was a game that was light on content from the very beginning... And was just a loot-box money spinner.
It would have been better served being a game released at a lower price point to reflect that.

Even today, years after release it's not exactly dripping with content, almost 3 and a half years... 10 heroes, 9 maps. - Pretty poor IMHO.

Hopefully Overwatch 2 fixes that.



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padib said:
I think Blizzard should focus on something new for warcraft. I personally would be much more hyped about Warcraft IV.

Maybe not new however Warcraft 3 is getting a proper Remaster due at the end of this year.



Pemalite said:
JRPGfan said:
Diablo 4 would have to go back to its roots, and pretend Diablo 3 didnt happend, for me to get excited about it.

I want skill trees + character builds back, and want more meaningfull item choices than D3 had.
In D3 every item was built like item level x = x amount of stats, only differnt between them is which attributes.
The uniques and set armors were boring lazy work... Which is how most of diablo 3 felt to me.

This. The simplifying the skills/character building was a detriment to Diablo 3's replay-ability for me... That and the maps weren't truly randomly generated, so you weren't getting a "Different experience" every play through.

Diablo is the type of game where you make multiple run throughs, it needs to be kept interesting and fresh as much as possible.

The bright side is... I did make a sizable profit on the game thanks to the Auction house before they threw that away, so it wasn't a total loss.

The Art style needs to get back to being dark and gritty as well, not the cartoonish style that plagues it's current titles.

ruffy37 said:

I own ow on pc but never played it more than 1 hour, I got bored to death in that 1 hour. ow2 would be, at least for me, the wrong way to rekindle my interest. they should extend the old game with new maps, mechanics, heroes and crossplay.

Overwatch was a game that was light on content from the very beginning... And was just a loot-box money spinner.
It would have been better served being a game released at a lower price point to reflect that.

Even today, years after release it's not exactly dripping with content, almost 3 and a half years... 10 heroes, 9 maps. - Pretty poor IMHO.

Hopefully Overwatch 2 fixes that.

There are currently 31 heroes and 21 maps in Overwatch. Seeing how big of a success the game is with full price and loads of people still playing, I'd say that's plenty of content. Quality trumps quantity anyway.



Hope this inspires certain other developers to give their outdated live service a polish with a sequel.



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Even if all of the leaks were true (band they probably will be, Blizzard is desperate for anything that distracts people from their controversies), would you trust them after all they've done? They don't seem to put any passion into their titles anymore, and I fear most of the leaked stuff would either be rushed to patch holes into their lineup or massive microtransaction holes.



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Somehow I wanna boycott Blizzard, they're evil and must be purged but at the same time I'm interested in D4 :)



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Pemalite said:
JRPGfan said:
Diablo 4 would have to go back to its roots, and pretend Diablo 3 didnt happend, for me to get excited about it.

I want skill trees + character builds back, and want more meaningfull item choices than D3 had.
In D3 every item was built like item level x = x amount of stats, only differnt between them is which attributes.
The uniques and set armors were boring lazy work... Which is how most of diablo 3 felt to me.

This. The simplifying the skills/character building was a detriment to Diablo 3's replay-ability for me... That and the maps weren't truly randomly generated, so you weren't getting a "Different experience" every play through.

Diablo is the type of game where you make multiple run throughs, it needs to be kept interesting and fresh as much as possible.

The bright side is... I did make a sizable profit on the game thanks to the Auction house before they threw that away, so it wasn't a total loss.

The Art style needs to get back to being dark and gritty as well, not the cartoonish style that plagues it's current titles.

ruffy37 said:

^ So much this!

D2 you could make various builds that where better optimised for certain farming of drops.
So even if every character could easily do everything, the fact was there was real choice, depending on playstyle enjoyment, ect that fed into the item economy.

D3 didnt feel like that at all.... in D3 it was basically just is this item level higher than the other peice? yes then swap.
While in D2, there was low levels that truelly where unique, and did special things that could change the character, and thus had value (for X builds).

We re totally on the same wave length with this one.


Playing a javazon and doing cow levels.... was a joy.
D3 never once had that sort of feeling to me, repeative farming of bosses just wasnt the same in D3, it crew stale sooooooo quick.



Jpcc86 said:
Chrizum said:
Diablo 3 was a terrible game.

D3 was not a good Diablo game, that's something that even Blizzard recognizes. The game is not bad if it was its own standalonish franchise.



padib said:
Azzanation said:

Maybe not new however Warcraft 3 is getting a proper Remaster due at the end of this year.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeouit

But still not WC4

Check out Warcraft 3 Reforged, i am sure they will remaster the Frozen Throne next.. and if they do well, we might see a Warcraft 4, fingers crossed.



Chrizum said:
Pemalite said:

Even today, years after release it's not exactly dripping with content, almost 3 and a half years... 10 heroes, 9 maps. - Pretty poor IMHO.

Hopefully Overwatch 2 fixes that.

There are currently 31 heroes and 21 maps in Overwatch. Seeing how big of a success the game is with full price and loads of people still playing, I'd say that's plenty of content. Quality trumps quantity anyway.

Might be enough content for you. Certainly not for me or many others, plus the playerbase has been in decline for awhile now.

But 31 heroes, 21 maps in total in a game that cost the full $60 USD combined with the lootbox money spinner that was making a Billion dollars a year? Needs to be more content than just that.

A company like Blizzard has also proven in all it's past titles that it is more than capable of both quantity and quality anyway, but hey, if you want to spend more money for less... It's your cash at the end of the day.




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