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Death Stranding Review Thread - MC: 82 / OC: 83 / GR: 83.17%

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BraLoD said:
Metal Gear Solid 4 is a great game, on par with MGS1.
Damn you can even play some MGS1 on MGS4 xD

If they let us play LoD on DS, the score would go to 100.



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colafitte said:

That may be true in some cases, but incidentally I think Kojima games have traditionally fallen under that category as well, if we're talking scores.
I was surprised at just how positive reviewers were with Metal Gear Solid 4 and 5. They received Metascores of 94 and 93 respectively.
Which is even higher than MGS3's metascore. And I'm not sure about that one...

That's because they were fucking amazing games. And this comes from a person who thinks MGS 4 suffered with the sames problems Death Strading does but in a even worse level: cheesy dialogues, messy script, stupid moments (I HATED AKIBA WITH A PASSION, almost ruined the game for me). But like Death Stranding too, when the story and characters work, they really really work, and make for some of the most memorable moments in gaming (everything Snake and Liquid related in that game was amazing and i loved it). That's what Kojima gives to you. I accept the bad if i get this level of good too.

As for MGS V, MGS V is another amazing game. Its gameplay is still unmatched in an open world/sandbox-stealh/action game. The amount of different aproaches/ways to play the game are masterfully crafted. Yes, the story is inconclusive and lacks any good direction for the most part, but still talks about interesting ideas like imperialism, pacifism, identity, family, treason, loyalty, etc....It's production values are top notch too and is still one of one of my most played games this gen. And what gives if it does not have a good story??. Zelda BOTW does not have a good story either and nobody cared and received a 97 on metacritic....In fact, because it was a Kojima game, I think MGS V was unfairly trated after launch just because it was not treated like a normal game. 

As for the fact that those games received better scores than MGS 3, that probably happened because the original version of MGS 3 had that fixed camera from above a la MGS1-2 that made things way more difficult than necessary, a thing that was fixed with the Subsistance version. Oh, and by the way, MGS 3 is one of my top 5 games ever, with the best story Kojima has written by far. If MGS 4 and MGS V were 9/10 games (like Death Stranding) for me, MGS 3 (Subsistance version of course) is the pure definition of a 10/10.

Those games deserved the 90+ scores...They're classics, even with their faults. And Death Strading should have been treated the same way, i mean like a 90+ scored game.

Opinions are like...well, you know. Anyway, my brother and I started playing the Metal Gear series on the NES (based on the commercial, we thought it was gonna be another Commando/Ikari Warriors). We were surprised and hooked ever since. 

MGS4 was the reason I purchased a PS3 and I was actually pretty underwhelmed. It still had some great moments but it just seemed to be missing so much that made 1-3 so epic. And it had too many terrible moments, imo.

I also bought MGS5 (both partss) at full price on day one and couldn't bring myself to finish it. This was the first time I'd never finished a Metal Gear. I still plan to one day but it's been how many years?

So I skipped this game. The only reason I'm even here is to see if people's personal experiences match the reviews.



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Been awhile since I posted any sort of Death Stranding message. I actually haven't played much this past week and have instead played a bunch of Disco Elysium on PC as well as Pokemon Sword and Shield with my little one.

Going to get back to DS soon. I didn't realize Elysium was going to be a 60 ~ 90 hour game, as I like to keep that information secret while I play through a game.

Nice to see DS get so many nominations for GotY. From what I've played so far, it seems worthy of the title. If not DS, then RE2 or Sekiro. I'd say that Smash Ultimate is possibly the "best" game of the year, but so much of it comes from Smash 4 that I don't know if it deserves the title. I never played Control, but my neighbor across the street has and really liked it, so now I'm interested in playing it myself.

I'm glad there's no Kingdom Hearts 3 nomination for GotY, as it was a major disappointment for me.



d21lewis said:
colafitte said:

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Those games deserved the 90+ scores...They're classics, even with their faults. And Death Strading should have been treated the same way, i mean like a 90+ scored game.

Opinions are like...well, you know. Anyway, my brother and I started playing the Metal Gear series on the NES (based on the commercial, we thought it was gonna be another Commando/Ikari Warriors). We were surprised and hooked ever since. 

MGS4 was the reason I purchased a PS3 and I was actually pretty underwhelmed. It still had some great moments but it just seemed to be missing so much that made 1-3 so epic. And it had too many terrible moments, imo.

I also bought MGS5 (both partss) at full price on day one and couldn't bring myself to finish it. This was the first time I'd never finished a Metal Gear. I still plan to one day but it's been how many years?

So I skipped this game. The only reason I'm even here is to see if people's personal experiences match the reviews.

The only MG game I ever played was 5, and I first played it a few years ago and didn't enjoy it enough to continue past the second mission. I tried playing it again a few months ago in anticipation for DS and ended up finishing the game, and a portion of the post-game, and really enjoyed it. It was recent enough such that I haven't mentally put the game down yet, although I doubt I'll play again anytime soon (ever?).

I'm not the biggest fan of stealth games, but I've opened up a bit after playing MGSV.



RaptorChrist said:
d21lewis said:

Opinions are like...well, you know. Anyway, my brother and I started playing the Metal Gear series on the NES (based on the commercial, we thought it was gonna be another Commando/Ikari Warriors). We were surprised and hooked ever since. 

MGS4 was the reason I purchased a PS3 and I was actually pretty underwhelmed. It still had some great moments but it just seemed to be missing so much that made 1-3 so epic. And it had too many terrible moments, imo.

I also bought MGS5 (both partss) at full price on day one and couldn't bring myself to finish it. This was the first time I'd never finished a Metal Gear. I still plan to one day but it's been how many years?

So I skipped this game. The only reason I'm even here is to see if people's personal experiences match the reviews.

The only MG game I ever played was 5, and I first played it a few years ago and didn't enjoy it enough to continue past the second mission. I tried playing it again a few months ago in anticipation for DS and ended up finishing the game, and a portion of the post-game, and really enjoyed it. It was recent enough such that I haven't mentally put the game down yet, although I doubt I'll play again anytime soon (ever?).

I'm not the biggest fan of stealth games, but I've opened up a bit after playing MGSV.

Graphically and gameplay wise, it's awesome! The sparse story and lack of things to do killed it. It plays differently from pretty much every other game in the series (aside from Peace Walker) so if you do play any of the other games, you're in for a shock! The others had a dialogue/cutscenes/easter eggs that compelled you to see what's next, though. The narrative kept me going and, in this day and age, they probably aren't as engaging either. 



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Omar500 said:
youngbr said:

I am glad you brought this up. I am trying to understand what is going on when I go to Twitter and other places.

I see most people saying how "Pokémon" reviews have been "GREAT" and how "Death Stranding" are "MIXED". I may be living in a different reality because "Death Stranding" Metacritic is higher and it has so many 100, but Pokémon has 0. Not trying to compare or anything, but how is the concept that Pokémon got Great Reviews and Death Stranding got Mixed? Why no one is saying Pokémon reviews aren't good, but keeps says 1000 times how Death Stranding were not good. I don't get it. 

Because Nintendo games are almost always overrated from critics side of view. They are almost scared to give bad score for it

Uh, same can be said easily for Kojima games.



DonFerrari said:
youngbr said:

I am glad you brought this up. I am trying to understand what is going on when I go to Twitter and other places.

I see most people saying how "Pokémon" reviews have been "GREAT" and how "Death Stranding" are "MIXED". I may be living in a different reality because "Death Stranding" Metacritic is higher and it has so many 100, but Pokémon has 0. Not trying to compare or anything, but how is the concept that Pokémon got Great Reviews and Death Stranding got Mixed? Why no one is saying Pokémon reviews aren't good, but keeps says 1000 times how Death Stranding were not good. I don't get it. 

And it becomes funnier when user review of pokemon is a lot lower than DS, and both are to low (must have troll reviews by the dozen).

If you go to amazon "Death Stranding" has now 66% 5 stars and 4.1 rating. It keeps increasing. 

LudicrousSpeed said:
Omar500 said:

Because Nintendo games are almost always overrated from critics side of view. They are almost scared to give bad score for it

Uh, same can be said easily for Kojima games.

What do you mean? I am talking here about "Death Stranding", not "MGS". 



TruckOSaurus said:
BraLoD said:
Metal Gear Solid 4 is a great game, on par with MGS1.
Damn you can even play some MGS1 on MGS4 xD

It's very telling that my favorite part of MGS4 is when you play MGS1 in it. MGS1 will always be my favorite in the series, MGS 4 was a big disappointment for me.

I loved MGS4, I almost felt compeled to give it a perfect score when I finished it, that's how much I liked it.

I actually like 4 more than 1, but none can hope to reach 3.

MGS3 is so good it hurts.

2 is the black sheep of the bunch, it's still a good game but boy it's nowhere near the others.



DonFerrari said:
BraLoD said:
Metal Gear Solid 4 is a great game, on par with MGS1.
Damn you can even play some MGS1 on MGS4 xD

If they let us play LoD on DS, the score would go to 100.

But of course, you would be able to just forget DS is even a thing and play LoD all the time.



I am here to accept the golden calculator award for guessing 83! Better late than never, right?
Of course a broken clock is right twice a day, and I had the go make a prediction about user score. my user score guess was way too high at 78, I guess the review bombers are strong with this one, I will see if I land any closer in a month or so., but I thought it would start out higher, not lower.

Better luck next masterpiece, Kojima!