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Pemalite said:

Definitely Anecdotal. I am also probably on a completely different continent... And Considering how sparsely populated said continent is... You don't get much more rural. - Yet fixed wireless, fiber to the node, ADSL, 3G/4G, Public Wifi and so on is a thing. - If your internet is limited, don't buy an online only game to start with.

I mean either way, at some point if you intend to run the Overwatch on your console, you will need to download the entire game irrespective of physical media eventually, Blizzard churns through it's datasets pretty often.
Yes a Physical copy is a good thing to have, especially for collectors like myself, but I understand Blizzards reasoning... Either way, It's not that big of a deal, just don't buy it, PC is all Digital, consoles are heading in that direction, the future is digital.

Again anecdotal you're asking why others have an issue not about yourself so your own situation is a moot point as this is an example of why they may do, people can buy what ever game they want as they manage their own situations being online only is not the issue it's the unexpected added hassle of still needing to download the current base game which is questionable.

You keep harping back to the patch argument when that doesn't debunk what people are saying they paid for a physical copy so that's what they're expecting and not just an empty box, eventually downloading all those patches for all we know will be months down the line so that in itself is not a good defence either because if the patches are monthly and come in at 1-2GB that's well manageable in how data plans work.

Last edited by Wyrdness - on 23 October 2019

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Wyrdness said:
Pemalite said:

Definitely Anecdotal. I am also probably on a completely different continent... And Considering how sparsely populated said continent is... You don't get much more rural. - Yet fixed wireless, fiber to the node, ADSL, 3G/4G, Public Wifi and so on is a thing. - If your internet is limited, don't buy an online only game to start with.

I mean either way, at some point if you intend to run the Overwatch on your console, you will need to download the entire game irrespective of physical media eventually, Blizzard churns through it's datasets pretty often.
Yes a Physical copy is a good thing to have, especially for collectors like myself, but I understand Blizzards reasoning... Either way, It's not that big of a deal, just don't buy it, PC is all Digital, consoles are heading in that direction, the future is digital.

Again anecdotal you're asking why others have an issue not about yourself so your own situation is a moot point as this is an example of why they may do, people can buy what ever game they want as they manage their own situations being online only is not the issue it's the unexpected added hassle of still needing to download the current base game which is questionable.

You keep harping back to the patch argument when that doesn't debunk what people are saying they paid for a physical copy so that's what they're expecting and not just an empty box, eventually downloading all those patches for all we know will be months down the line so that in itself is not a good defence either because if the patches are monthly and come in at 1-2GB that's well manageable in how data plans work.

Unless you have expanded storage you will be installing/uninstalling games on Switch if you have a decently sized games library.
Thus you are likely going to have to do a fair chunk of downloading anyway.

Either way... I did state that not having a Physical copy sucks, but I also understand how quickly Overwatch gets updated considering I own multiple copies for multiple platforms...

Plus it's an online-only game... If Data is that important to you, don't buy an online-only game.



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--

Too much for the Switch to handle? How is Paladins?



Polyludic said:
Too much for the Switch to handle? How is Paladins?

Paladins is great! Runs at 60 fps for starters.



Pemalite said:

Unless you have expanded storage you will be installing/uninstalling games on Switch if you have a decently sized games library.
Thus you are likely going to have to do a fair chunk of downloading anyway.

Either way... I did state that not having a Physical copy sucks, but I also understand how quickly Overwatch gets updated considering I own multiple copies for multiple platforms...

Plus it's an online-only game... If Data is that important to you, don't buy an online-only game.

Don't really get the point you're trying to make with storage here as it has nothing really to do with the topic.

I own OW on PC your patches argument still doesn't fly as that's over a long period of time and no people can buy what ever game they want as they manage their data all the time it still doesn't stop this action by Blizzard being a significant inconvenience this comment in itself is not a valid defence in any context here as people in that position would have already accounted for it being online only it's having to download the full base game that would be the issue.



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Pemalite said:
Why are people against a code? Physical is great... But Overwatch gets updated so frequently that the data on the disks for the PC/Xbox/PlayStation versions might as well go in the bin anyway, it's all been superseded.

for anyone who doesn't know, when you buy a digital game you don't technically "own" the game you just bought. you own a license that allows you to play it. you can't lend it to a friend or sell it, you essentially have nothing, when you could have bought physical and truly owned it. it has nothing to do with updates at all. when you buy digital you let the publisher play you for a chump, and some people don't like that.



SquirrelWhisperer said:
Pemalite said:
Why are people against a code? Physical is great... But Overwatch gets updated so frequently that the data on the disks for the PC/Xbox/PlayStation versions might as well go in the bin anyway, it's all been superseded.

for anyone who doesn't know, when you buy a digital game you don't technically "own" the game you just bought. you own a license that allows you to play it. you can't lend it to a friend or sell it, you essentially have nothing, when you could have bought physical and truly owned it. it has nothing to do with updates at all. when you buy digital you let the publisher play you for a chump, and some people don't like that.

That is a grey area... And depending on region the buy a license would probably not hold any weight in court, especially in regions with pro-consumer stances, because most stores advertise it as "Buy this game" and not "Buy a license for this game".

Wyrdness said:
Pemalite said:

Unless you have expanded storage you will be installing/uninstalling games on Switch if you have a decently sized games library.
Thus you are likely going to have to do a fair chunk of downloading anyway.

Either way... I did state that not having a Physical copy sucks, but I also understand how quickly Overwatch gets updated considering I own multiple copies for multiple platforms...

Plus it's an online-only game... If Data is that important to you, don't buy an online-only game.

Don't really get the point you're trying to make with storage here as it has nothing really to do with the topic.

I own OW on PC your patches argument still doesn't fly as that's over a long period of time and no people can buy what ever game they want as they manage their data all the time it still doesn't stop this action by Blizzard being a significant inconvenience this comment in itself is not a valid defence in any context here as people in that position would have already accounted for it being online only it's having to download the full base game that would be the issue.

Er. Has everything to do with it, it necessitates the need to uninstall/reinstall games if you have a sizable library.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that second half... Because again, Physical is great... There is just lots of reasons to make Overwatch a digital only game on Switch.



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Pemalite said:
SquirrelWhisperer said:

for anyone who doesn't know, when you buy a digital game you don't technically "own" the game you just bought. you own a license that allows you to play it. you can't lend it to a friend or sell it, you essentially have nothing, when you could have bought physical and truly owned it. it has nothing to do with updates at all. when you buy digital you let the publisher play you for a chump, and some people don't like that.

That is a grey area... And depending on region the buy a license would probably not hold any weight in court, especially in regions with pro-consumer stances, because most stores advertise it as "Buy this game" and not "Buy a license for this game".

Wyrdness said:

Don't really get the point you're trying to make with storage here as it has nothing really to do with the topic.

I own OW on PC your patches argument still doesn't fly as that's over a long period of time and no people can buy what ever game they want as they manage their data all the time it still doesn't stop this action by Blizzard being a significant inconvenience this comment in itself is not a valid defence in any context here as people in that position would have already accounted for it being online only it's having to download the full base game that would be the issue.

Er. Has everything to do with it, it necessitates the need to uninstall/reinstall games if you have a sizable library.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that second half... Because again, Physical is great... There is just lots of reasons to make Overwatch a digital only game on Switch.

You're not making any sense with this because if someone is buying physical their library will be on carts :/



Wyrdness said:
Pemalite said:

That is a grey area... And depending on region the buy a license would probably not hold any weight in court, especially in regions with pro-consumer stances, because most stores advertise it as "Buy this game" and not "Buy a license for this game".

Er. Has everything to do with it, it necessitates the need to uninstall/reinstall games if you have a sizable library.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that second half... Because again, Physical is great... There is just lots of reasons to make Overwatch a digital only game on Switch.

You're not making any sense with this because if someone is buying physical their library will be on carts :/

He's talking about Overwatch specifically. Not other games. As such if you at any point need to unistall it you'll have to afterwards download everything again. So if you have limited internet it makes no sense to buy an online-only game. It's silly not include a cart in the box, yes, but in this specific case it's not much different than having it digital-only even if there was a cart.



Safiir said:
Wyrdness said:

You're not making any sense with this because if someone is buying physical their library will be on carts :/

He's talking about Overwatch specifically. Not other games. As such if you at any point need to unistall it you'll have to afterwards download everything again. So if you have limited internet it makes no sense to buy an online-only game. It's silly not include a cart in the box, yes, but in this specific case it's not much different than having it digital-only even if there was a cart.

This argument still doesn't fly because if someone has 40GB data a month for example they've already factored in their usage of online play so saying it's an online only game is a null and void point because those buying the game would be like yeah and? Everything in future such as patches over months and any possible uninstall they would have accounted for on their own accord this is simply not a valid defence at all for not having a cart in any context otherwise just don't have a physical version that's not physical and just be fully digital so people know beforehand so they can account for it, Call of Juarez a single player game has notified players it would need to be fully downloaded on its announcement so Blizzard could have as well.