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What do you think?

I would be fine with that 19 24.05%
 
It's irrelevant 9 11.39%
 
That looks pretty bad 15 18.99%
 
AMAZING! 8 10.13%
 
That s**t looks awful! 12 15.19%
 
Did we go back to the 90's? 3 3.80%
 
V for Vendetta 3 3.80%
 
Would rather have it look like a box 4 5.06%
 
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit 5 6.33%
 
Should continue to stack ... 1 1.27%
 
Total:79

With an 8TB SSD like this in the PS5, who won't be able to resist, no matter the price or case design?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/gigabyte/aorus-aic-pcie-4-ssd-8-tb

"Gigabyte has announced the world’s fastest and largest PCIe 4.0 SSD, the Aorus AIC, during its Aorus Xtreme Power event at Computex 2019. With 8TB of space on a single add-in card, you’ll never have to worry about your Steam library crippling your PC ever again. Oh and did I mention it runs up to 15,000MB/s read and 15,200MB/s write? Damn."

"And there’s certainly a debate surrounding whether a drive comprised of multiple smaller SSDs should be considered as a single storage drive itself. But if Nvidia can claim the “world’s largest GPU” for a bunch of GPUs strung together via switches and interconnects, I suppose Gigabyte also gets a pass."

"The CEO of Phison, K.S Pau, also made an appearance at the event touting the world’s first PCIe 4.0 x4 SSD for use with AMD’s Ryzen 3000 platform: the Phison PS5016-E16. That drive won’t max out the bandwidth available, managing 5,000MB/s read and 4,400GB/s write, but Pau teased a new controller capable of 6,500MB/s arriving in Q1, 2020."

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/441074/sony-job-listing-originally-stated-the-ps5-will-be-the-worlds-fastest-console/

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 25 October 2019

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BraLoD said:
EricHiggin said:

"The CEO of Phison, K.S Pau, also made an appearance at the event touting the world’s first PCIe 4.0 x4 SSD for use with AMD’s Ryzen 3000 platform: the Phison PS5016-E16.

Here we go folks!

Holy crap. I totally missed that code. 

Good eye!

PS5016-E16. If this is just coincidence, it's one hell of a coincidence. lol

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14449/phisons-ps5016e16-ps5019e19-the-worlds-first-pcie-40-ssd-controllers

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 26 October 2019

BraLoD said:
EricHiggin said:

Holy crap. I totally missed that code. 

Good eye!

PS5016-E16. If this is just coincidence, it's one hell of a coincidence. lol



EricHiggin said:

"And there’s certainly a debate surrounding whether a drive comprised of multiple smaller SSDs should be considered as a single storage drive itself. But if Nvidia can claim the “world’s largest GPU” for a bunch of GPUs strung together via switches and interconnects, I suppose Gigabyte also gets a pass."

Fundamentally that is how an SSD works. - A heap of small memory chips working together.

Multiple SSD's just expands upon that concept by having discreet packaged groupings of memory chips working together.

BraLoD said:

The thing is, we don't know what Cerny actually said, as it was never properly quoted, just commented by the article writer using him own (writer words).

This is what he wrote: At the moment, Sony won’t cop to exact details about the SSD—who makes it, whether it utilizes the new PCIe 4.0 standard—but Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs.

There is no direct quote to Cerny actual speech, just a comment about what he said.

The writer said he claims it's higher than any SSD available for PCs, but what did Cerny actually said to lead to that comment?

If that is indeed the case, then I subtract my complaint against Cerny and place it towards the article writer instead.




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Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:

"And there’s certainly a debate surrounding whether a drive comprised of multiple smaller SSDs should be considered as a single storage drive itself. But if Nvidia can claim the “world’s largest GPU” for a bunch of GPUs strung together via switches and interconnects, I suppose Gigabyte also gets a pass."

Fundamentally that is how an SSD works. - A heap of small memory chips working together.

Multiple SSD's just expands upon that concept by having discreet packaged groupings of memory chips working together.

Had to add that quote from the article since there was earlier discussion about single vs multiple drives. How it's accomplished really doesn't matter as long as it meets the overall design criteria and is cost effective.



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EricHiggin said:
BraLoD said:

Here we go folks!

Holy crap. I totally missed that code. 

Good eye!

PS5016-E16. If this is just coincidence, it's one hell of a coincidence. lol

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14449/phisons-ps5016e16-ps5019e19-the-worlds-first-pcie-40-ssd-controllers

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is just a coincidence:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12292/phison-at-ces-2018-thunderbolt-ssds-secondgen-nvme-controllers

Phison's second generation of NVMe SSD controllers has been on the roadmap for quite a while, but now the products are starting to become a reality. The PS5008-E8 and its DRAMless -E8T variant are Phison's solution for the emerging low-end NVMe product segment. These controllers will be used with 3D TLC NAND flash memory, and their performance will be limited by the use of a PCIe 3 x2 interface instead of the x4 interface used by high-end NVMe drives.

Phison's PS5012-E12 controller is their high-end replacement for the current E7 controller, and it promises to bring much higher performance: over 3GB/s sequential transfers when paired with 64L 3D TLC NAND.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13080/the-phison-e12-nvme-ssd-controller-preview

https://www.anandtech.com/show/9982/ces-2016-phison-previews-upcoming-ssd-controllers

For 2016, the mainstay of Phison's controller lineup will continue to be the PS3110-S10, which has been used in drives sold by OCZ/Toshiba, Mushkin, Corsair, Zotac, Patriot, Kingston, PNY and others, and paired with both TLC and MLC NAND.

The much more exciting product is Phison's PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD controller, the PS5007-E7. The E7 controller is very close to launch and we've already seen numerous product announcements based on that platform.

Last edited by Conina - on 27 October 2019

Wrong Bralod's thread.



BraLoD said:

I just realised that what made it look so lame, at least to me, was the color scheme, and specially those blue lights coming out of it.

The V design actually looks cool to me, it reminds me the X shapped original XBOX which is one of my favorite designs.

So we have the X of the original Xbox and the V (or A?) of the PS5.

But don't forget the U of the Atari Jaguar!



Conina said:
EricHiggin said:

Holy crap. I totally missed that code. 

Good eye!

PS5016-E16. If this is just coincidence, it's one hell of a coincidence. lol

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14449/phisons-ps5016e16-ps5019e19-the-worlds-first-pcie-40-ssd-controllers

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is just a coincidence:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12292/phison-at-ces-2018-thunderbolt-ssds-secondgen-nvme-controllers

Phison's second generation of NVMe SSD controllers has been on the roadmap for quite a while, but now the products are starting to become a reality. The PS5008-E8 and its DRAMless -E8T variant are Phison's solution for the emerging low-end NVMe product segment. These controllers will be used with 3D TLC NAND flash memory, and their performance will be limited by the use of a PCIe 3 x2 interface instead of the x4 interface used by high-end NVMe drives.

Phison's PS5012-E12 controller is their high-end replacement for the current E7 controller, and it promises to bring much higher performance: over 3GB/s sequential transfers when paired with 64L 3D TLC NAND.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13080/the-phison-e12-nvme-ssd-controller-preview

https://www.anandtech.com/show/9982/ces-2016-phison-previews-upcoming-ssd-controllers

For 2016, the mainstay of Phison's controller lineup will continue to be the PS3110-S10, which has been used in drives sold by OCZ/Toshiba, Mushkin, Corsair, Zotac, Patriot, Kingston, PNY and others, and paired with both TLC and MLC NAND.

The much more exciting product is Phison's PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD controller, the PS5007-E7. The E7 controller is very close to launch and we've already seen numerous product announcements based on that platform.

I figured as much, but talking about the PS5 SSD, finding that article, posting it, and not realizing it actually has a product number with PS5 in it, then having someone else realize it and point it out, is just so weird and unlikely. Almost as if it was meant to be. lol



BraLoD said:
EricHiggin said:

I figured as much, but talking about the PS5 SSD, finding that article, posting it, and not realizing it actually has a product number with PS5 in it, then having someone else realize it and point it out, is just so weird and unlikely. Almost as if it was meant to be. lol

Don't mind him, it's all piecing together!

On a side note:

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