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How bout dat Blizzard!? UPDATE: Blizzard responds with "China isn't involved please believe us!"

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Will you boycott Blizzard?

Yes 46 63.01%
 
No 21 28.77%
 
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fatslob-:O said:

Those who doesn't want brexit to go through deserve no sympathy from here since it is hypocritical of them to single any other independence movements ...

There are so many things wrong with this comparison, that I'm more disappointed with it than disagree with it.  

They're happening for different reasons.  EU and CCP are so far from eachother on the scale of problematic, that they are not even on the same map.  
CCP is an authoritarian state that pushes for censorship, puts people in prisons for speaking out against the state, etc.

Hong Kong is fighting to maintain it's way of life, Brexit does the opposite.  

I'm not against Brexit in the same way that I support Hong Kong.  

I don't think Brexit is in the best interest of the UK.  It's not the end of the world though if it happens. 

Similarly I don't think Hong Kong giving up is in their best interest.  But it's a lot more than that.  I think they're in danger if they give up.

Trying to pin these two events as if they are both simple independence movements, with no considerations of what either situation even entails, does a disservice to both.  

And frankly it does a disservice to yourself.



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Azzanation said:
Gamers boycotting Blizzard due to a political stance (which China has everything to do about it) are not Gamers at all.
Honestly Blizzard has a massive Chinese market in China so its obvious why they are sucking up to the new laws.

That's fine I don't need to be called a gamer. Call me whatever you want at the end of the day Blizzard will no longer continue to receive my money or time in their games. If I lose the title of gamer so be it wont stop me from firing up Spiderman and finishing that up while I wait for that sweet Star Wars game coming in Nov.



the-pi-guy said:

There are so many things wrong with this comparison, that I'm more disappointed with it than disagree with it.  

They're happening for different reasons.  EU and CCP are so far from eachother on the scale of problematic, that they are not even on the same map.  
CCP is an authoritarian state that pushes for censorship, puts people in prisons for speaking out against the state, etc.

Hong Kong is fighting to maintain it's way of life, Brexit does the opposite.  

I'm not against Brexit in the same way that I support Hong Kong.  

I don't think Brexit is in the best interest of the UK.  It's not the end of the world though if it happens. 

Similarly I don't think Hong Kong giving up is in their best interest.  But it's a lot more than that.  I think they're in danger if they give up.

Trying to pin these two events as if they are both simple independence movements, with no considerations of what either situation even entails, does a disservice to both.  

And frankly it does a disservice to yourself.

I don't care. Neoliberal imperialism is still imperialism at the end of the day and I'm going to call people out for their exceptionalism ... 

People backing the EU for defending their solidarity but chiding the CPC for protecting their own unity is hypocritical regardless of the reasons ... 

What is 'authoritarian' is simply a matter of perspective and consensus between parties. Quite a few British people see the EU's authority as being overbearing thus they even went as far as democratically voting themselves out of a union. Hong Kong protesters for similar reasons find Chinese authority to be relentless and thus want a way out ... 

Yet somehow these very same people who oppose brexit and argued in favour of unity also support Hong Kong independence. Now why on earth could this be ? Could it be because these very same people are ideologically opposed to the people behind brexit ? 

If so then their position is indefensible from my point of view since they are acting out of pettiness to willingly violate the sovereignty of other entities that do not align with their ideology ... 

Pick one of the above, nobody can have both ... 



method114 said:
Azzanation said:
Gamers boycotting Blizzard due to a political stance (which China has everything to do about it) are not Gamers at all.
Honestly Blizzard has a massive Chinese market in China so its obvious why they are sucking up to the new laws.

That's fine I don't need to be called a gamer. Call me whatever you want at the end of the day Blizzard will no longer continue to receive my money or time in their games. If I lose the title of gamer so be it wont stop me from firing up Spiderman and finishing that up while I wait for that sweet Star Wars game coming in Nov.

That's perfectly fine, I would much rather play video games without the politically crowd playing them. I am sure Blizzard will survive without your money or anyone else that plan on boycotting games because of nonsense outside of gaming. Please free up the servers. Life will be a lot better for those of us who want to play good games and not vent their voice about justice and political laws and change inside the gaming scene. 

I am sure if Sony, Nintendo or Xbox were part of this instead of Blizzard, you opinion would most definitely change.



The dumbest thing about this entire thing is why voice an opinion at an Esports event? Why get video game companies involved? If that's not the stupidest thing iv seen than the kid deserves the punishment he got. Go fight against the government by actually rallying people and protesting like a real protester not at a games event /facepalm.
Thanks to this kid, he only brought in negativity into the gaming industry. Please don't get us involved, follow the rules at the show its that simple.
Kids these days.



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Azzanation said:
method114 said:

That's fine I don't need to be called a gamer. Call me whatever you want at the end of the day Blizzard will no longer continue to receive my money or time in their games. If I lose the title of gamer so be it wont stop me from firing up Spiderman and finishing that up while I wait for that sweet Star Wars game coming in Nov.

That's perfectly fine, I would much rather play video games without the politically crowd playing them. I am sure Blizzard will survive without your money or anyone else that plan on boycotting games because of nonsense outside of gaming. Please free up the servers. Life will be a lot better for those of us who want to play good games and not vent their voice about justice and political laws and change inside the gaming scene. 

I am sure if Sony, Nintendo or Xbox were part of this instead of Blizzard, you opinion would most definitely change.

Free up the servers? Get over yourself. Would it kill you to agree to disagree with a minimum of politeness? Or at the very least, without the condescending, self-serving BS? Is it that hard to understand that some people despise totalitarian oppression as well as businesses who bend the knee to those oppressors?



Spike0503 said:
Azzanation said:

That's perfectly fine, I would much rather play video games without the politically crowd playing them. I am sure Blizzard will survive without your money or anyone else that plan on boycotting games because of nonsense outside of gaming. Please free up the servers. Life will be a lot better for those of us who want to play good games and not vent their voice about justice and political laws and change inside the gaming scene. 

I am sure if Sony, Nintendo or Xbox were part of this instead of Blizzard, you opinion would most definitely change.

Free up the servers? Get over yourself. Would it kill you to agree to disagree with a minimum of politeness? Or at the very least, without the condescending, self-serving BS? Is it that hard to understand that some people despise totalitarian oppression as well as businesses who bend the knee to those oppressors?

I don't support gamers who take what happens in the outside world and bring it into the gaming industry. 

I don't support the new laws in HK but I definitely despise some Esports kid using Blizzards platforms to view his political stance and getting the gaming industry involved. So ill speak up against that. If you disagree with me that's fine I couldn't care less. If the kid had his own platform to vent his opinion on this protest than that's an entirely different story and gain more respect from me. But no, lets put a company in the firing line. 

Ill continue to play Blizzard games because I play video games. And ill do so even happier than before knowing less people will play these games. They can keep their drama off the servers please.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 13 October 2019

Azzanation said:
The dumbest thing about this entire thing is why voice an opinion at an Esports event? Why get video game companies involved? If that's not the stupidest thing iv seen than the kid deserves the punishment he got. Go fight against the government by actually rallying people and protesting like a real protester not at a games event /facepalm.
Thanks to this kid, he only brought in negativity into the gaming industry. Please don't get us involved, follow the rules at the show its that simple.
Kids these days.

Because what,none is doing that?

What he did made a lot more others talking about it so it was worthwhile breaking silly rules for it and it was a pretty bad move from Blizzard themselves to decide being politically involved like this.

Edit: What you do not understand is that Blizzard was already politically involved before the kid did that shoutout,to blame it on the gamer is ridiculous.But i'm sorry this affected your enjoyment of games as entertainment,Honk Kong and it's currently still free people should adress an apology to you while they still have the means to do so.

Last edited by Immersiveunreality - on 13 October 2019

Immersiveunreality said:

Because what,none is doing that?

What he did made a lot more others talking about it so it was worthwhile breaking silly rules for it and it was a pretty bad move from Blizzard themselves to decide being politically involved like this.

breaking silly rules? What? He broke the rules at a Games event.. 

How would you like everyone breaking the rules at all your favourite events with someone yelling out loud or voicing none related stuff?

Would you like me screaming out loud for attention because I have freedom of speech at your favourite show or event? I say Keep it where it belongs.

The kid knows the internet exists right? His a popular gamer, why not upload a clip on the internet? Its not like he didn't have other options to choose from.  

EDIT: Blizzard do what they have to do to stay relevant in Chine/HK, they are a business that make video games. They are not the ones bullying people in the streets.



Azzanation said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Because what,none is doing that?

What he did made a lot more others talking about it so it was worthwhile breaking silly rules for it and it was a pretty bad move from Blizzard themselves to decide being politically involved like this.

breaking silly rules? What? He broke the rules at a Games event.. 

How would you like everyone breaking the rules at all your favourite events with someone yelling out loud or voicing none related stuff?

Would you like me screaming out loud for attention because I have freedom of speech at your favourite show or event? I say Keep it where it belongs.

The kid knows the internet exists right? His a popular gamer, why not upload a clip on the internet? Its not like he didn't have other options to choose from.  

EDIT: Blizzard do what they have to do to stay relevant in Chine/HK, they are a business that make video games. They are not the ones bullying people in the streets.

If it was for the same values then yes i would like you to scream out loud for them,because i value human rights far above entertainment.

He knows the internet exist yet this was an even more effective platform to use his voice on,Blizzard do not bully in the street but they did give a political punishment and no normal one and hey if they want the chinese market and adjust to that consumerbase then we also have the right as consumers to step out of the market of aim for them.

That is our freedom.

You can be so entitled to not like human rights messing with your shows but no need to be upset at others being more humanitary.