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100% shift to renewable energy (solar and wind) and the electrification of all vehicles. Power generation/consumption and transportation is the single largest culprit of all our climate woes. Aything else is a bandaid.



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numberwang said:

Why did Obama just buy a mansion for $15M at the ocean front?

Does he not believe in rising sea levels?

Anyway, eat your soy burger and give more money to the rich.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/22/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-buying-15m-estate-in-marthas-vineyard/

It is funny that you give us proof that he is prepared for rising sea levels because that house is build on elevated ground.

Mansions of the rich on higher ground,yeah you sure did show us being wrong.



You are asking the wrong question. Its pretty obvious what we should do. The real question is what are we willing to sacrifice to get it done. For now judging on the actions that have been taken and the fact that pretty much all developing and developed countries are emitting more greenhouse gasses every year, not enough.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Immersiveunreality said:
numberwang said:

Why did Obama just buy a mansion for $15M at the ocean front?

Does he not believe in rising sea levels?

Anyway, eat your soy burger and give more money to the rich.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/22/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-buying-15m-estate-in-marthas-vineyard/

It is funny that you give us proof that he is prepared for rising sea levels because that house is build on elevated ground.

Mansions of the rich on higher ground,yeah you sure did show us being wrong.

Totally "elevated" by a few feet, a true believer Obama is.

Why did Al Gore sell his TV network for $100M personal gain to Qatar, the richest per-capita oil nation the world?

Does he not believe in fighting fossil fuel power?

Anyway, tax the poor some more, Al needs a bigger private jet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/01/02/current-tv-near-sale-to-al-jazeera-likely-500-million-deal-for-al-gore-and-co/#3185fbad4f59



numberwang said:
Immersiveunreality said:

It is funny that you give us proof that he is prepared for rising sea levels because that house is build on elevated ground.

Mansions of the rich on higher ground,yeah you sure did show us being wrong.

Totally "elevated" by a few feet, a true believer Obama is.

Why did Al Gore sell his TV network for $100M personal gain to Qatar, the richest per-capita oil nation the world?

Does he not believe in fighting fossil fuel power?

Anyway, tax the poor some more, Al needs a bigger private jet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/01/02/current-tv-near-sale-to-al-jazeera-likely-500-million-deal-for-al-gore-and-co/#3185fbad4f59

It is elevated by 10,59 feet,will take a thousand years at the rate sea levels currently rise but lets say it could go much faster and it takes 200 years so sadly for you it still gives no weight to what you are trying to do here.

Also you have a problem with seperating politics from science and you seem to be under the impression that those politics are a means to denounce scientific data.



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how many of you drive cars?



Deny until it's too late and then deny culpability. Simple.



Stefan.De.Machtige said:
tsogud said:
Some solutions are already slowly happening. If you've noticed, there's a trend going on with restaurants, fast-food places, companies, etc. that deal with meat in that they're heavily pushing meat alternatives. I'm seeing a lot specifically for burgers nowadays i.e. the Impossible Whopper, it's at a point where is beginning to pick up steam in the mainstream. It'll take a while but this move to choosing meat alternatives more often and occasionally having real meat is what will help us out a lot with climate change. The future is partial vegetarianism people.

If only they could eat more refined food then now...

Most americans are near 70% plant-based or refined food already and their health continues to plummet.

Also i remember reading that 80% of vegetarians last only a year or so on the diet. So good luck on that one.

Yes, unhealthy processed and refined foods are the reason our health is plummeting. In your graphic it says to eat less from the processed and animal food groups because it leads to disease and more from whole foods from the plant food group because it contributes to good health. So a healthy vegetarian lifestyle is optimal not only for the environment but also your health. A healthier plant-based meat alternative is not the bad guy here lol 

You should note that it says in your graphic that it counts almonds in candy bars in the plant food section, that's hardly a healthy snack. So really it's 6% of whole plant foods in that section.

The goal I'm suggesting is not to totally eliminate real meat from your diet but to not eat it as crazily as we have, sort of a "partial vegetarianism" with more whole foods from plants. I, for one, am a fan of tofu burgers lmao when I was a pescatarian for about 5 years I'd eat them occasionally and have grown a taste for them.



 

Keep it going to 1000ppm. The net effects of human Co2 have been positive so far. The future predictions are just scare mongering. More plant food, more greening, higher crop yields, less poverty in developing countries. Fossil fuels are still great.

If it turns out Co2 is actually bad, the go nuclear. It's the only current option that can sustain base load power.



Immersiveunreality said:
numberwang said:

Totally "elevated" by a few feet, a true believer Obama is.

Why did Al Gore sell his TV network for $100M personal gain to Qatar, the richest per-capita oil nation the world?

Does he not believe in fighting fossil fuel power?

Anyway, tax the poor some more, Al needs a bigger private jet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2013/01/02/current-tv-near-sale-to-al-jazeera-likely-500-million-deal-for-al-gore-and-co/#3185fbad4f59

It is elevated by 10,59 feet,will take a thousand years at the rate sea levels currently rise

No catastrophe then? Oceans have been rising for the last 10K years since the interglacial period began.

Sea levels at Stockholm, home of famous Greta with no childhood. Seems we have declining sea levels there (or elevating tectonic plates).

https://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/stations/78.php

Sea levels at Venice, Italy. There was a slow rise in the first half of the 20th century, but it seems to have mostly stalled when CO2 began to rise in the 60s.

https://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/stations/168.php