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Cross-play on PlayStation 4 is now available for all developers to use in their games

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KLAMarine said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

No reason for it to change either. People might as well complain that Sony controllers don't have the same thumbstick layout as Xbox controllers. 

"I should have crossplay in my games!"

Is just as dumb of a complaint as...

"I should be able to jump between consoles without analog stick layout confusion!" 

"No reason for it to change either."

>Unless people are asking for it. Third parties that port games to your console are asking for it, consumers are asking for it, your competition can boast about it.

"People might as well complain that Sony controllers don't have the same thumbstick layout as Xbox controllers."

>If enough people demand it, Sony might be forced to provide an alternative to the usual layout.

The majority of people asking for it aren't Playstation users though. Even in an online poll, where even Xbox/PC users could respond only 29% of people polled actually cared. http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/09/poll_do_you_care_about_cross-play_now_that_its_available_on_ps4 A poll limited to PS users would come back with 15% or less giving a damn about it. 

Edit: Here's another poll taken about crossplay. The results are similar. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-04-12-do-gamers-really-care-about-cross-platform-play

Third parties asked Sony for Xbox One style DRM back in 2013. Should Sony have caved to that too? Third parties only want crossplay so that they can keep their shitty GaaS MTX infested games alive a little longer, to milk even more money out of them. Bad games die faster if the userbase is split between three or four platforms. 

Xbox only boasts about it because its' damned near the only thing they can boast about. They manufactured the entire controversy. Of course they allowed crossplay on Xbox and PC. They are invested in both platforms. And yes Nintendo did allow crossplay on a handful of games, but let's not kid ourselves. MS was looking to drive the narrative to benefit themselves. 

Nobody is demanding an alternate thumbstick layout on PS because nobody cares. If MS started boasting about how they have "the superior thumbstick layout" and "only sony forces you to play with both thumbsticks at the bottom of the controller" we would see threads by people who suddenly cared. We would see news articles promoting the idea. Anyway, my point is that the entire crossplay controversy is only an issue because MS made it an issue, for their own benefit. Normally nobody would give a damn. 

Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 03 October 2019

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thismeintiel said:
BraLoD said:
Meh

My thoughts exactly.  I don't use it, nor will I, but I guess it's cool for the 10% of owners of a PS4 that will use it.

Exactly this! Only a very small percentage of PS4 users will use it. It's a non-issue. 



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Good. Even if someone personally doesn't care for it, it's still a nice feature to have. This should mean more games using it in the future.



I hope you can turn the feature off, i don't want to cross play in shooters, pc would have too much of an advantage. Not only that PC games are usually prone to cheaters. Take Apex Legends for example, free to play game, if you get banned for cheating you just make another account and continue cheating. I don't want that to happen when I'm playing, it's enough to put me off entirely and just go back to single player games.



Did not care before, I do not care now, but good for all 3 people who actually wanted this, I guess



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Mr Puggsly said:
Damn, this is gonna ruin online gaming on PlayStation because...

Uhm... I can't remember the arguments being made by Sony fans that actually opposed this. I just know its bad for some reason.

Rather than making unnecessary inflammatory generalizations about a particular group, quote whoever supposedly said this. Or refrain from doing it.

Usually when I press someone on the origin of these type of comments, I find that (surprise surprise) no one here on VGC actually said that. And they can't even point me to wherever they supposedly read it either.
Although I'm sure it exists. Because you can find any opinion online if you look hard enough. That's not an excuse to generalize for the sake of starting trouble.

~Edit~
For the record, I believe what you're thinking of is Sony's excuse about "protecting the children", which to my recollection people didn't buy. Commonly citing Nintendo as being more children-safety oriented.

And people saying "it makes sense for the industry leader to not help the other platforms".
Though acknowledging that is not the same as being opposed to cross play. I can understand that reasoning from a business perspective, but I still wanted cross-play personally, because fighting games benefit from it a lot.

Last edited by Hiku - on 03 October 2019

That is how it is for the players (you don't do heavy ads to gain marketing of the move, you just do it, otherwise it just seems like virtuo signalizing).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Hiku said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Damn, this is gonna ruin online gaming on PlayStation because...

Uhm... I can't remember the arguments being made by Sony fans that actually opposed this. I just know its bad for some reason.

Rather than making unnecessary inflammatory generalizations about a particular group, quote whoever supposedly said this. Or refrain from doing it.

Usually when I press someone on the origin of these type of comments, I find that (surprise surprise) no one here on VGC actually said that. And they can't even point me to wherever they supposedly read it either.
Although I'm sure it exists. Because you can find any opinion online if you look hard enough. That's not an excuse to generalize for the sake of starting trouble.

The most I can remember of seeing here was either "I don't care about this feature", "this is anti-costumer" or "Sony is not allowing it to not benefit their competitor".



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Aaaand like clockwork, here's an announcement trailer about it from none other than Xbox.

Last edited by Hiku - on 03 October 2019

Hiku said:

Aaaand like clockwork, here's an announcement about it from none other than Xbox.

Let's wait for they to be praised for being the one that made it happen =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994