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Train wreck said:
RolStoppable said:
They weren't working for Nintendo when such a thing happens. What were they up to?

Working with Nintendo.

Their softography shows a ForwardWorks Corporation game as the last entry. ForwardWorks belongs to Sony.

Beyond that, pretty much every article mentions rising development costs which rules out their work for Nintendo where they reused assets for the Mario & Luigi games. Also, Nintendo wouldn't let the studio die if they were in the middle of developing an exclusive for Switch, so your assertion simply makes no sense.



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Ooof, the series has always been consistently good amongst even it's lowest entries (Partners in Time, Paper Jam) in the series, not exempt of defaults sure but some of you are seriously tripping man xD



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Mar1217 said:
Ooof, the series has always been consistently good amongst even it's lowest entries (Partners in Time, Paper Jam) in the series, not exempt of defaults sure but some of you are seriously tripping man xD

Dude, partners in time was the best of the series!! How can you speak these words!!

Sad news but I hope the series continues in some fashion, I actually think the last couple were far to hand holdy and got very bogged down. They fet like they had a lot of filler content 



Sucks that people are losing their jobs, but the Mario & Luigi games have not been very good for a while imo. Bowsers Inside Story was the last great one I think.



RaptorChrist said:

I don't know the way it works in Japan, but in America it is possible to use bankruptcy as a means of eliminating debt and hopefully restructuring and becoming profitable again.

I declared bankruptcy three or four years ago, and due to my income at the time, I was right at the threshold of being eligible for Chapter 11 (in my favor), which means that I didn't have to pay the debt back. Between my wife and I, we wrote off a total of over $80,000 worth of debt.

If you're curious, a lot of it was credit card debt. A lot of it was also because of a vehicle which I got a loan for (brand new) and didn't make any payments on. A lot of it was medical, as we recently had our first child. Lots of miscellaneous things, like a rent payment that I never made on an old apartment I had. I used to drive through toll-ways without paying, and there was like $1,000 owed in my name. Minor things like utility bills, phone service providers that I didn't pay back, you get the idea.

If it is similar in Japan, perhaps they will liquidate the assets of the company and eliminate their debt, and the company can try and make profits again. I'm not sure how a partially coded videogame can be liquidated, though.

Edit: Made shorter; I'm rambling too much.

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RolStoppable said:
Train wreck said:

Working with Nintendo.

Their softography shows a ForwardWorks Corporation game as the last entry. ForwardWorks belongs to Sony.

Beyond that, pretty much every article mentions rising development costs which rules out their work for Nintendo where they reused assets for the Mario & Luigi games. Also, Nintendo wouldn't let the studio die if they were in the middle of developing an exclusive for Switch, so your assertion simply makes no sense.

There is an unreleased (although known) game for the Switch that AlphaDream worked on that is releasing soon. Its just a matter if its 3rd party or 1st party title, given their 20 year stint of being a Nintendo second party, all signs are pointing to that.

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RetroGamer94 said:
Mar1217 said:
Ooof, the series has always been consistently good amongst even it's lowest entries (Partners in Time, Paper Jam) in the series, not exempt of defaults sure but some of you are seriously tripping man xD

Dude, partners in time was the best of the series!! How can you speak these words!!

Sad news but I hope the series continues in some fashion, I actually think the last couple were far to hand holdy and got very bogged down. They fet like they had a lot of filler content 

Yeeaaaah, except Dream Team the rest of the games (SS/BIS remake, Paper Jam) were litteraly less hand holdy than the first 3 games actually. They put them in the tutorial book and that was it, it's not complicated.

Anyway, Partners in Time is often seen as the  black sheep of the franchise for a reason. Great setting and good characters can only get you so far when you're :

- The shortest game in the series

- The most boring set of Bros Attack ... which were actually bought ?! There's absolutely no managing to be done and cheezing the game with some of these items was too easy.

- Worst music. (Doesn't mean it's bad, hell no but there's a reason why it's the only game in the series I don't put much music from on my playlist)

- No quality of life features from the latest titles (FastForward through cutscenes, a single button to make everyone jump, saving anywhere you want, etc ...)

- THAT GODDAMN PHOTOGRAPHER !!



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I'm curious what Nintendo will do with them now. I don't see them buying up Alpha Dream. They weren't making big sellers, Nintendo owns the IP and they'd have to deal with the 400 million yen debt. I don't expect Alpha Dream will exist. My guess is either Nintendo will hire them and absorb them into a new studio or they will form a new company that Nintendo will purchase. At a minimum, I see Nintendo keeping some of the talent.



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Sucks that people are losing jobs, but I'ma be honest here. They haven't made a game that interest me in years, and I used to love the M&L games. Hindsight is 20/20, but even back before they released I was ridiculing them for releasing remakes to games only 1 gen old on a dying system. Apparently the series also being a Mario RPG is what made Nintendo decide to change Paper Mario for the worst. Now that M&L is gone, perhaps there's hope for Paper Mario again.



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I'm curious what Nintendo will do with them now. I don't see them buying up Alpha Dream. They weren't making big sellers, Nintendo owns the IP and they'd have to deal with the 400 million yen debt. I don't expect Alpha Dream will exist. My guess is either Nintendo will hire them and absorb them into a new studio or they will form a new company that Nintendo will purchase. At a minimum, I see Nintendo keeping some of the talent.

To Nintendo, that's like this: