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JWeinCom said:
curl-6 said:

You can play Ring Fit Adventure on the Lite. You just need additional Joycons. I don't remember requiring additional Wiimotes being an impairment to a lot of blue ocean games on Wii.

I never said you couldn't.  I said they were more likely to at a 199 price point.  The joycons bring it to a 280 dollar pricepoint.  At which point it's kind of senseless to buy the lite anyway. 

By the way, which games required purchasing two additional Wii-motes to play with one player?

I was referring games that focus on multiplayer; Wii Sports/Resort, MKWii, Wii Party, Just Dance, etc.



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curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:

I never said you couldn't.  I said they were more likely to at a 199 price point.  The joycons bring it to a 280 dollar pricepoint.  At which point it's kind of senseless to buy the lite anyway. 

By the way, which games required purchasing two additional Wii-motes to play with one player?

I was referring games that focus on multiplayer; Wii Sports/Resort, MKWii, Wii Party, Just Dance, etc.

None of those games required additional Wii-motes.  Even if you wanted to play Wii Sports with 2 players at launch it was 290 (310 if you care about multiplayer boxing).  

Switch Lite with Ring fit and 2 joycons is 360.  So, significantly more expensive without the added value of multiplayer.



JWeinCom said:
curl-6 said:

I was referring games that focus on multiplayer; Wii Sports/Resort, MKWii, Wii Party, Just Dance, etc.

None of those games required additional Wii-motes.  Even if you wanted to play Wii Sports with 2 players at launch it was 290 (310 if you care about multiplayer boxing).  

Switch Lite with Ring fit and 2 joycons is 360.  So, significantly more expensive without the added value of multiplayer.

They did if you wanted to play multiplayer which was a key element of their appeal.

$360 in 2019 ain't far off $310 in 2006, nowadays people casually buy $800 phones/tablets despite already having one that works fine.

But we'll probably just have to agree to disagree here.



curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:

None of those games required additional Wii-motes.  Even if you wanted to play Wii Sports with 2 players at launch it was 290 (310 if you care about multiplayer boxing).  

Switch Lite with Ring fit and 2 joycons is 360.  So, significantly more expensive without the added value of multiplayer.

They did if you wanted to play multiplayer which was a key element of their appeal.

$360 in 2019 ain't far off $310 in 2006, nowadays people casually buy $800 phones/tablets despite already having one that works fine.

But we'll probably just have to agree to disagree here.

... required means required.  Mandatory.  I can assure you I played and enjoyed all of those games, except Just Dance, by myself at times with a single Wiimote. If you want to amend your statement that's fine.  But as you stated it, it was flat out wrong.  We're not going to agree to disagree.  You are factually wrong.

If you take it at straight up inflation, then 290 (seriously nobody wanted to play Wii Boxing with two people, and none of those other games required a nunchuck) is actually pretty much 360 even.  But, people just don't look at gaming or pricing that way.  If next year's Madden launched at 78.82, people wouldn't say "oh well due to inflation since 2005, that's a fair price".  They would bitch about how expensive it is.  Which is why game prices have increased in other sneakier ways. 

Sure people will casually buy a phone for 800 dollars.  But that's a phone.  Different market.  Or do you think people would buy an 800 dollar PS5? 



JWeinCom said:
curl-6 said:

They did if you wanted to play multiplayer which was a key element of their appeal.

$360 in 2019 ain't far off $310 in 2006, nowadays people casually buy $800 phones/tablets despite already having one that works fine.

But we'll probably just have to agree to disagree here.

... required means required.  Mandatory.  I can assure you I played and enjoyed all of those games, except Just Dance, by myself at times with a single Wiimote. If you want to amend your statement that's fine.  But as you stated it, it was flat out wrong.  We're not going to agree to disagree.  You are factually wrong.

If you take it at straight up inflation, then 290 (seriously nobody wanted to play Wii Boxing with two people, and none of those other games required a nunchuck) is actually pretty much 360 even.  But, people just don't look at gaming or pricing that way.  If next year's Madden launched at 78.82, people wouldn't say "oh well due to inflation since 2005, that's a fair price".  They would bitch about how expensive it is.  Which is why game prices have increased in other sneakier ways. 

Sure people will casually buy a phone for 800 dollars.  But that's a phone.  Different market.  Or do you think people would buy an 800 dollar PS5? 

Required for the multiplayer that was a huge part of the draw of those games was what I meant.

But we're just not gonna agree on this. Casuals buy expensive shit all the time, Wii Fit ran me $120 AUD back in 2010, (Standard game price here is $80) $510 if you needed a Wii to play it on.



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Anyway, as it's clear we're on two different sides of the fence here, I'm gonna leave it here, no point in us carrying this on for pages on end.
Peace.



curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:

... required means required.  Mandatory.  I can assure you I played and enjoyed all of those games, except Just Dance, by myself at times with a single Wiimote. If you want to amend your statement that's fine.  But as you stated it, it was flat out wrong.  We're not going to agree to disagree.  You are factually wrong.

If you take it at straight up inflation, then 290 (seriously nobody wanted to play Wii Boxing with two people, and none of those other games required a nunchuck) is actually pretty much 360 even.  But, people just don't look at gaming or pricing that way.  If next year's Madden launched at 78.82, people wouldn't say "oh well due to inflation since 2005, that's a fair price".  They would bitch about how expensive it is.  Which is why game prices have increased in other sneakier ways. 

Sure people will casually buy a phone for 800 dollars.  But that's a phone.  Different market.  Or do you think people would buy an 800 dollar PS5? 

Required for the multiplayer that was a huge part of the draw of those games was what I meant.

But we're just not gonna agree on this. Casuals buy expensive shit all the time, Wii Fit ran me $120 AUD back in 2010, (Standard game price here is $80) $510 if you needed a Wii to play it on.

Mkay.  Later.



This is just something that would do so much better on mobile now. That's where the market is. Though then they have the problem of monetization. 



Marth said:


Coming to Europe as well.

So just a few days after Japan. Sure beats the 5 year delay in coming West of the 3DS game!

Only America missing now.