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Lonely_Dolphin said:

Delete all humans that have been tainted by the bad ideas of prior generations all at once, leaving only the innocent young children and babies to grow up and reform humanity with the good ideas we've had. Pretty extreme to kill most of humanity like that, but it's had more than enough time to get better on it's own.

So you want to die for a better world? That's very altruistic of you.



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We've all been tainted with bad ideas for the past 10,000 years. Some would harken it back to the dawn of symbolic thought some 35,000 years ago.



 

 

 

 

 

Who gets to define what a is a bad idea?



sethnintendo said:

Terminator scenario.   Just need to keep Arnold alive.

Eh that can happen with or without this plan, more advanced robots are inevitable I'd like to think.

super_etecoon said:
This silly fantasy is always conjured up by the youth of the day. The fact of the matter is that all the divine and devilish are contained within each of us even as we form our first words. Free will gives us the ability to destroy and create. Look at you even trying to do both at the same time.

This is bitterness and a desire just to start anew, and the fact of the matter is that isn't possible. Also, please have a little understanding that for the generations that came before you, we were in the exact same situations. As Billy Joel once said, It's always been burning since the world's been turning.

And no...it isn't fun to think about. It's a serious proposition with a lot of blood in the equation.

You understand that this isn't even possible as I've said, so it's clearly not a serious proposition, but ok lul. There will always be bad people who do bad things while being fully aware they're bad, this is true, but I believe removing reasons for people to go that route would surely reduce their number.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
sethnintendo said:

Terminator scenario.   Just need to keep Arnold alive.

Eh that can happen with or without this plan, more advanced robots are inevitable I'd like to think.

super_etecoon said:
This silly fantasy is always conjured up by the youth of the day. The fact of the matter is that all the divine and devilish are contained within each of us even as we form our first words. Free will gives us the ability to destroy and create. Look at you even trying to do both at the same time.

This is bitterness and a desire just to start anew, and the fact of the matter is that isn't possible. Also, please have a little understanding that for the generations that came before you, we were in the exact same situations. As Billy Joel once said, It's always been burning since the world's been turning.

And no...it isn't fun to think about. It's a serious proposition with a lot of blood in the equation.

You understand that this isn't even possible as I've said, so it's clearly not a serious proposition, but ok lul. There will always be bad people who do bad things while being fully aware they're bad, this is true, but I believe removing reasons for people to go that route would surely reduce their number.

Oh you mean like an entire species being aware that their predecessors were all killed in a mass genocide?  Yeah, that's going to create a whole positive, optimistic future for all involved.  Nothing but good ideas would flourish after that...that's for sure.



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You sound like a psychopath.

You really have no trouble in killing a whole bunch of people. If this happens, everybody else that remains will be scarred for life and traumatized for generations.

Adolf Hitler didnt want to kill everybody, he just wanted to select certain people, and look what that did to human history. A lot of people thought Eugenics was the future.

OP, this is an awful idea. If you want to improve humanity, you have to drive humans into a place of personal evolution, and spiritual progress. Let me tell you that the system, the global system itself, is rotten. And people in control believe it should be rotten. All it would take is better intentions from the top-down. Less of an effort to keep humanity drowned in water when they would naturally float. You don't have to kill people. At all.. that would only make what we have now incredibly worse..



Jpcc86 said:
Just do nothing and let humanity carry on as it is, we'll eventually destroy ourselves and a new species will evolve and rule the Earth. I hope its sharks.

Yeah that's what we all have no choice but to do, just sit there knowing we'll be responsible for the suffering of future generations. Also, nah to sharks, dolphins are the second most intelligent creatures on this planet so it'd surely be them to rule. If Ecco the Dolphin is accurate, they'll learn to fly and time travel and fight aliens!

Conina said:

So you want to die for a better world? That's very altruistic of you.

Nah I wouldn't frame it like that, it's more for myself, that I can die knowing my death has meaning, that I'll be doing what I wish had already been done for me.

LordLichtenstein said:
Who gets to define what a is a bad idea?

Good question! Should probably be somebody who can be impartial, who doesn't have any attachments n therefore bias to any human or group of humans. Whadya know, that sounds like me. :L



Azelover said:
You sound like a psychopath.

You really have no trouble in killing a whole bunch of people. If this happens, everybody else that remains will be scarred for life and traumatized for generations.

Adolf Hitler didnt want to kill everybody, he just wanted to select certain people, and look what that did to human history. A lot of people thought Eugenics was the future.

OP, this is an awful idea. If you want to improve humanity, you have to drive humans into a place of personal evolution, and spiritual progress. Let me tell you that the system, the global system itself, is rotten. And people in control believe it should be rotten. All it would take is better intentions from the top-down. Less of an effort to keep humanity drowned in water when they would naturally float. You don't have to kill people. At all.. that would only make what we have now incredibly worse..

 This exactly.

Lonely is a good guy though.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

We've had plenty of time to get better based on what exactly? What metric are you scoring humanity against?

You do realize that things are getting better and better right? This is the safest time to believe in the history of humanity.



super_etecoon said:

Oh you mean like an entire species being aware that their predecessors were all killed in a mass genocide?  Yeah, that's going to create a whole positive, optimistic future for all involved.  Nothing but good ideas would flourish after that...that's for sure.

The sacrifices of previous generations are always seen as heroic and justified, should be the same deal here.

Azelover said:
You sound like a psychopath.

You really have no trouble in killing a whole bunch of people. If this happens, everybody else that remains will be scarred for life and traumatized for generations.

Adolf Hitler didnt want to kill everybody, he just wanted to select certain people, and look what that did to human history. A lot of people thought Eugenics was the future.

OP, this is an awful idea. If you want to improve humanity, you have to drive humans into a place of personal evolution, and spiritual progress. Let me tell you that the system, the global system itself, is rotten. And people in control believe it should be rotten. All it would take is better intentions from the top-down. Less of an effort to keep humanity drowned in water when they would naturally float. You don't have to kill people. At all.. that would only make what we have now incredibly worse..

We're all gonna die anyway, may as well be for a potentially good reason. If that thinking makes me a psycho, eh whatevs. I don't think there will be dramatization or scarring, the idea is that the ones left are too young to have formed any attachments with the previous generation.

I think that's the key difference, Hitler was an idiot who believed some humans were better than other humans. My idea is that we'll all die equally, and then the next generation will be given equal treatment, the idea that any of them are somehow inherently better than another won't even be entertained.

From the perspective of currently living humans it is indeed an awful idea, I didn't doubt people would disagree but thought it'd be fun to share. Anywho, if what you say is truely that easy and simple why hasn't it been done already?