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I guess I need to break down and watch the video. Personally the Xbox One is my most used gaming device this gen (I own 4 and purchased 7 this gen--three are gifts). I also have two PS4s, a Switch, a Wii U, 4 3DSs, and a Vita.

A lot of the features I despised at the beginning of the gen with the Xbox One reveal actually turned out not to be bad at all--especially since I made the jump to full digital on all of my consoles in 2015. Yeah, it lacks exclusives but it's my 3rd party hardware of choice and I love the non-ganing bells and whistles.

Also fun fact: I've initiated a class action lawsuit against M$. I can't go into details yet. Maybe not for a couple of years...

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This coming year will be a crucial time. Everyone who loves videogaming needs to do their part in making sure MS never rises from the ashes of XB1.
MS is a blight on this industry and the artistic integrity of videogames and the sooner they leave it the better it is for all of us.

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Sarkar said:
This coming year will be a crucial time. Everyone who loves videogaming needs to do their part in making sure MS never rises from the ashes of XB1.
MS is a blight on this industry and the artistic integrity of videogames and the sooner they leave it the better it is for all of us.



Sarkar said:
This coming year will be a crucial time. Everyone who loves videogaming needs to do their part in making sure MS never rises from the ashes of XB1.
MS is a blight on this industry and the artistic integrity of videogames and the sooner they leave it the better it is for all of us.

Bahahahahaha, good one mate.......................... wait, you're serious? er welp, this is embarrassing. 



SammyGiireal said:
super_etecoon said:

How is this statement even remotely true?  Nintendo consistently updates and revamps their franchises, often to the chagrin of their most ardent fans.  Certainly they continue to use the same characters, but to suggest they use the same blueprint shows either a lack of knowledge about the history of these titles, or a very expansive view of what the Mario or Zelda blueprints are.  For comparison, check out the COD formula or Final Fantasy.  I'm probably going to regret even getting involved in this conversation, but I for one am tired of this consistent argument made by people that just don't like the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule.  I suppose it might be like how I might think a specific genre of music all sounds the same, while other people would be able to cut that genre into 15 different sub-genres and claim that as diversity.

But to suggest that Nintendo ever gets a pass and that people aren't nit-picky about them would be to ignore almost every forum post in the last 15 years.

Indeed. Nintendo has never gotten a pass. Infact Super Mario 3D World while excellent was panned on forums ( it didn't really help the Wii U sell either but the Wii U had many issues) Nintendo actually has it rougher than most. People usually expect excellence from their Zelda and Mario main releases, if a Zelda is not a 10/10 game people start complaining about it. Nintendo never gets a pass if BotW and Mario Odyssey are top ten all time games it is because Nintendo always strives for excellence and innovation with in their own IPs. BotW is a prime example of this, with in its open world the game does things that no other open world game does.

I think that just highlights the problem, their games are criticized by gamers, but a mainline Mario/Zelda game will always be a 90+ rated game. The critics do go too easy on these two franchises and also Rockstar when throwing out those 10s.

And it's super obvious too, because these games regularly lose out the GOTY awards to lower rated titles when everyone starts voting for the best game of the year. Which just proves that even critics don't believe these games are as good as they rated them.



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SammyGiireal said:

Good points to know. But wouldn't you say that Sony's PS3's late gen push recovered a lot of gamers with exclusives and thus outsold the 360 paving the way for the PS4s crushing success. Sony was the favorite this gen they had built the momentum, no one imploded. 

It could be many things, Xbox did take there foot off the pedal on the last couple of years of the 360 which allowed PS3 to catch up. A good example here would be Sony bringing GT6 to finish off the PS3 while MS moved FM5 to the XB1 instead of the 360. 

The total sales result was really scored in junk time in the generation if we put it in sports thermology.



Azzanation said:
SammyGiireal said:

Good points to know. But wouldn't you say that Sony's PS3's late gen push recovered a lot of gamers with exclusives and thus outsold the 360 paving the way for the PS4s crushing success. Sony was the favorite this gen they had built the momentum, no one imploded. 

It could be many things, Xbox did take there foot off the pedal on the last couple of years of the 360 which allowed PS3 to catch up. A good example here would be Sony bringing GT6 to finish off the PS3 while MS moved FM5 to the XB1 instead of the 360. 

The total sales result was really scored in junk time in the generation if we put it in sports thermology.

Foot off the pedal? They never had it on the pedal. The initial success 360 enjoyed was all thanks to PS3 releasing a year late at a ridiculous price. If not for that 360 would've done just as badly as everything else MS has released in the consumer market. 



Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:

It's sure it's bad and than he mentioned "who need Scarlet ???". Scarlet is officially doomed before it's even born LOL.

A bit of a stretch to assert something as definitive before it's even started.

It will all come down to the games in the end, especially if Microsoft is able to pump out more quality titles like Gears 5 that showcases the Ray Tracing potential of the console.

Well of course that's what he said, in my opinion it can change Scarlet can be great "if " Microsoft " can do more than just "ray tracing" .

Because we know Gears 5 already did that. 



interesting video! i have two friends who bought a PS4 for the first time (they only had xbox-consoles in the past) and sold their xboxone's. the reasons? 1. Sony invests much more money in their games than microsoft(in the last 7 years), that's why. and 2. the exclusives list is much bigger on ps4. I see no game ala "horizon zero dawn, uncharted 4, persona 5, spiderman, detroit become human, many big jrpgs ala dragon quest 11, ni no kuni or god of war" on xbox. A friend said last year: Other developers want love to detail, Microsoft wants "good statistics".

And what will appear in the next weeks / months? on Ps4: "Congrete Genie, MediEvil Remake, Death Stranding, Shenmue 3, Last of Us 2, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Ni-Oh 2, Yakuza Collection, Persona 5 Royal, maybe Ghost of Tsushima" ect. What on Xbox? big games or exclusives in the next months? Not much. Who wants to play Xbox Games, it can also be on pc. The Xbox360 was good, the xboxone is really boring in my opinion.

this screen is from youtube xD hard words, but true.

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Death Stranding, PS4-Release: November 8! The Last of Us 2, February 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvG-EpPoCCA


Sarkar said:

Foot off the pedal? They never had it on the pedal. The initial success 360 enjoyed was all thanks to PS3 releasing a year late at a ridiculous price. If not for that 360 would've done just as badly as everything else MS has released in the consumer market. 

Xbox as an entire devision last gen was performing better than Playstation across the board.

Yes even on the 1st party games front Xbox was doing better. The 360 earnt its strips and it definitely didnt help that the PS3 fell over at launch. Similar to this gen with PS4 feeding off XB1 and WiiU's underperforming launches.