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Interest Level?

Getting at launch! 9 24.32%
 
Might pick it up eventually 11 29.73%
 
Leaning towards no 3 8.11%
 
Not a chance! 13 35.14%
 
Other 1 2.70%
 
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

Any activity that raises your heart rate past 120-130 for 20-25 minutes can burn calories. You can do jumping jacks standing in one spot and burn the same calories.

200 calories extra burned a day in 1 month, 2 months, or even 3 months is not going to get you anywhere near that result, that's just a fact. You would have to fast, not diet, talking about full on starving your body and not having any meals for long periods of time, any physical activity in the range of only 200 calories spent a day isn't doing jack shit to that in a period of that short of a time. 

If that result was possible you would see 10,000 people posting similar results, hell if you could get those results why stop at 25 minutes a day, many people would go a full hour and theoretically get the same result in 2 weeks. The reason you're not hearing any stories like that is because it's bullshit.  

200 calories of cardio a day means you can now eat an extra granola bar or half a sandwich. Whoopity freaking doo. Calories are calories, there's no way around that it's like trying to say $5 of gasoline in your car should get you $20 worth of distance ... uh no. That's not a matter of opinion. 

I am pretty sure the reason why there aren't more stories like this is that most people are unable to pull it off to keep up a daily routine for a month straight. And those people who do are usually not fat in the first place.

Also, it's fact that metabolism differs between individuals, so results of the same exercise routine and diet can greatly differ from person to person.

No, the reason you're not seeing results anywhere close to that from anyone else is because this guy is full of shit. 

People fall for all sorts of stupid quick fix fads because they think diet/fitness is some mythical thing that impacts some people completely different.  

If you want to lose weight and you create a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. But it takes time, and 200 calories lost from 25 minutes of mild cardio is a drop in the bucket. There is no diet that can lose a giant ass gut like what that guy had without full on fasting in that time period. This guy didn't discover some magical thing that even top level bodybuilders, Olympians, Hollywood actors, and pro athletes don't know about. 

The only way to lose a gut like that in a month would be to fast and/or vomit up all the food you are eating (yes even "healthy food", calories are still calories they don't magically evaporate), light cardio is not going is going to be nothing compared to that. And even then it would be extremely difficult to do that. He's clearly using a photo from a year or more prior. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 06 January 2020

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My brother is seriously considering picking this one up as he's become overweight over the past year. And he's definitely not the kind of person who typically buys the Wii Fit/Just Dance "expanded audience" software.



RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

No, the reason you're not seeing results anywhere close to that from anyone else is because this guy is full of shit. 

People fall for all sorts of stupid quick fix fads because they think diet/fitness is some mythical thing that impacts some people completely different.  

If you want to lose weight and you create a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. But it takes time, and 200 calories lost from 25 minutes of mild cardio is a drop in the bucket. There is no diet that can lose a giant ass gut like what that guy had without full on fasting in that time period. This guy didn't discover some magical thing that even top level bodybuilders, Olympians, Hollywood actors, and pro athletes don't know about. 

The only way to lose a gut like that in a month would be to fast and/or vomit up all the food you are eating (yes even "healthy food", calories are still calories they don't magically evaporate), light cardio is not going is going to be nothing compared to that. And even then it would be extremely difficult to do that. He's clearly using a photo from a year or more prior. 

Denial about metabolism, tsk tsk.

Those are photos, remember. Sucking in the stomach a bit on the "after" picture doesn't take much effort. Regardless, RFA does what it is supposed to do.

Eh I know a thing or two about metabolism as I had an extreme metabolism in high school and had to power down mass gainer shakes with lunch and breakfast every day. Metabolism doesn't magically change calories in/out that much. 

That guy is developing man boobs in the photo he shared it's not just a gut with a body fat percentage probably in excess of 25% in his original photo.

If you could pull that off in 30 days every actor in Hollywood would pay him millions of dollars to come set up the same diet for them, with a laughable 25 minutes/day of light cardio only, lol. 

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Soundwave said:
Jumpin said:

That’s pretty much nonsense. I have never been even slightly fat, and eat quite a lot. Also, while I don’t eat much in the way of fatty or processed foods, I do eat a fairly carb heavy diet (lots of potatoes, bread, rice, and such). The difference is I exercise regularly.

lol, I've been weight training for 10+ years and worked at a gym for several years and played sports at the high school and college level. You're not getting results like that from 25 minutes of light cardio (and yes Ring Fit is light cardio, heavy cardio is things like HIIT or playing full court basketball at full tilt and even with heavy cardio you can't just eat like shit) in a month.

Burning 250 calories extra a day is not going to radically transform anyone's physique in 30 days, 250 calories is a granola bar, so you're burning off a granola bar's worth of calories. Use your brain and think about that for a second. 

To lose weight you need to be burning more calories than you take in and to maintain a weight you need to then keep your calories at that equilibrium level (so you can't be taking in a large amount of excess calories over what you burn). There's no ifs/ands/or buts about this.

Any fitness fad/doofus trying to sell people on radical body changes in 30 days is a pretty clear tip off of a fraudster. 

And for all your years lifting weights up and playing games in high school, your knowledge of basic nutrition and metabolism is about 8 decades out of date. Everyone did sports in High School and University, most people lift weights. You would have been much better off taking some nutritional sciences or biology classes instead of just gym.

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Jumpin said:
Soundwave said:

lol, I've been weight training for 10+ years and worked at a gym for several years and played sports at the high school and college level. You're not getting results like that from 25 minutes of light cardio (and yes Ring Fit is light cardio, heavy cardio is things like HIIT or playing full court basketball at full tilt and even with heavy cardio you can't just eat like shit) in a month.

Burning 250 calories extra a day is not going to radically transform anyone's physique in 30 days, 250 calories is a granola bar, so you're burning off a granola bar's worth of calories. Use your brain and think about that for a second. 

To lose weight you need to be burning more calories than you take in and to maintain a weight you need to then keep your calories at that equilibrium level (so you can't be taking in a large amount of excess calories over what you burn). There's no ifs/ands/or buts about this.

Any fitness fad/doofus trying to sell people on radical body changes in 30 days is a pretty clear tip off of a fraudster. 

And for all your years lifting weights up and playing games in high school, your knowledge of basic nutrition and metabolism is about 8 decades out of date. You would have been better off taking a health or nutrition class instead of majoring in gym. Calorie burning math doesn't work the way you describe it, not even close.

You don't need to have a PhD in physical fitness to know that 25 minutes a day of light cardio for a month and some "diet changes" is going to get you that result in 30 days. I've worked in a gym for several years I know several personal fitness trainers.

There's no metabolism on planet earth that does that and thank god it doesn't because the human species would've died out for the majority of its existence where food was not readily available in a refrigerator or supermarket and you actually had to go for days without eating at times and still be able to hunt/chase your next meal in that process. 

To lose weight you need to create a calorie deficit, if you eat continually in excess of the calories you are burning off you are going to gain weight. As a person who has a high metabolism, that applies to me too, people think we're some kind of magical unicorn that can eat whatever, and that's also bullshit. There's no metabolism that changes that to any huge degree. 

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Soundwave said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Just wanted to share this, too. Really amazing what 25m exercise daily and a balanced diet can do in just a bit over 2 months.

It's bullshit and he's claiming 30 days too, lol. If any cardio or even heavy cardio + weights program could do that in 30 days in just 25 minutes per day first of all you would have 10,000+ other people lining up to show similar results, secondly people would be paying $1000/pop for this. 

The game itself has a calorie counter that shows it burns about 200 calories for a 20-25 minute session, that's not creating anywhere near the kind of calorie deficit you would need unless you radically alter your diet, not just "clean it up a tad".  You'd have to be fasting for long periods basically (no food, limited water intake) to get rapid results like that and even then I think it would be difficult to lost a fatty gut like that in 30 days. 

What I got from my calorie counter was way more than just 200 calories, I got over 600 kilocalories per 30 minutes session, once even over 1000. I don't know where you get those 200 calories from



Soundwave said:
Jumpin said:

And for all your years lifting weights up and playing games in high school, your knowledge of basic nutrition and metabolism is about 8 decades out of date. You would have been better off taking a health or nutrition class instead of majoring in gym. Calorie burning math doesn't work the way you describe it, not even close.

You don't need to have a PhD in physical fitness to know that 25 minutes a day of light cardio for a month and some "diet changes" is going to get you that result in 30 days. I've worked in a gym for several years I know several personal fitness trainers.

There's no metabolism on planet earth that does that and thank god it doesn't because the human species would've died out for the majority of its existence where food was not readily available in a refrigerator or supermarket and you actually had to go for days without eating at times and still be able to hunt/chase your next meal in that process. 

To lose weight you need to create a calorie deficit, if you eat continually in excess of the calories you are burning off you are going to gain weight.

You also don't need a PhD to take a health class, you could have taken one in High School.

I don't know or care about this 25-minute guy. I am talking about your calorie-burning math.



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Jumpin said:
Soundwave said:

You don't need to have a PhD in physical fitness to know that 25 minutes a day of light cardio for a month and some "diet changes" is going to get you that result in 30 days. I've worked in a gym for several years I know several personal fitness trainers.

There's no metabolism on planet earth that does that and thank god it doesn't because the human species would've died out for the majority of its existence where food was not readily available in a refrigerator or supermarket and you actually had to go for days without eating at times and still be able to hunt/chase your next meal in that process. 

To lose weight you need to create a calorie deficit, if you eat continually in excess of the calories you are burning off you are going to gain weight.

You also don't need a PhD to take a health class, you could have taken one in High School.

I don't know or care about this 25-minute guy. I am talking about your calorie-burning math; that's not how it works.

It more or less does work. You're either in a state of calorie deficit or surplus or by fluke right down at equilibrium. 

There's isn't some alternate option there. If you are in a deficit consistently long enough you will lose weight. If you are at a surplus consistently long enough you will gain weight. 

I remember reading a study even that a doctor did about 10 years ago where he ate nothing but food from a 7-11 all day for like 6 months or something, but he controlled the calorie intake to be under what he needed to maintain his weight. Guess what? Even eating shit like potato chips and chocolate bars all day and Twinkies, he lost a large amount of weight, improved his cholesterol, etc. etc. 

People always want some fancy fucking answer for this stuff like some magical new diet craze or fitness product will magically do the trick, but it's really just calorie deficit. It doesn't even matter if it McDonalds you're eating all day, as long as you put your body into calorie deficit. The truth is most people don't want to do that because it's uncomfortable. They don't want to hear that, they want to hear about some trendy Miami Beach diet (which they ditch after 2 weeks) or some Ab Doer product they think will give them rock hard abs (uh no number of crunches is going to do a damn thing until you get your body fat down to a very low number). Saw that at the gym allllll the time, doesn't surprise me so many people are overweight, if you don't understand calories in/out and you're baffled as to why you're fat ... 99.9999999% of time it's because you're taking in more calories than you think. 

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While I'll say, I don't buy that Ring Fit could magically make a guy ripped or lose a gut in a month or two, I do have to say that I think it's important to consider that a good chunk of this game isn't just cardio, but actual resistance training. This means you're constantly (or usually) working your muscles, and the time it takes for the muscle tissue to rebuild will take a day or longer which burns more calories over time - vs straight up cardio which burns calories more or less all at once.

The in-game calorie burning counter is neat, but I question how accurate that is. I was legit sweating bullets and completely sore doing squats for an hour with this game, and basically ready to collapse, and yet the calorie counter stood at like 270. I'm thinking there is absolutely no way I burned that few calories when I used to ride an exercise fan bike, and while I'd be sweating quite a bit I burned over TWICE the amount of calories after riding for an hour according to the bike monitor, and sure I felt winded but I was actually MORE exhausted playing an hour of Ring Fit with all the resistance training. I feel like the game is failing to count the calories burned from the rebuilding muscle tissue, which IS significant. Could be wrong but just my take.



 

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DarthMetalliCube said:

While I'll say, I don't buy that Ring Fit could magically make a guy ripped or lose a gut in a month or two, I do have to say that I think it's important to consider that a good chunk of this game isn't just cardio, but actual resistance training. This means you're constantly (or usually) working your muscles, and the time it takes for the muscle tissue to rebuild will take a day or longer which burns more calories over time - vs straight up cardio which burns calories more or less all at once.

The in-game calorie burning counter is neat, but I question how accurate that is. I was legit sweating bullets and completely sore doing squats for an hour with this game, and basically ready to collapse, and yet the calorie counter stood at like 270. I'm thinking there is absolutely no way I burned that few calories when I used to ride an exercise fan bike, and while I'd be sweating quite a bit I burned over TWICE the amount of calories after riding for an hour according to the bike monitor, and sure I felt winded but I was actually MORE exhausted playing an hour of Ring Fit with all the resistance training. I feel like the game is failing to count the calories burned from the rebuilding muscle tissue, which IS significant. Could be wrong but just my take.

Yes and no. Muscle exhaustion doesn't necessarily correlate to calorie loss, like for example it's very easy even within 5 minutes to exhaust your muscles to the point of near "collapse" (or lets say more accurately exhaustion) in any weight room by doing 80-90% of your max bench press or at the squat rack, but doing that 6-7 reps for 4-5 sets with minimal break in between, you're going to quickly hit a point where you've reached complete muscle fatigue. 

But that doesn't really mean the pizza you ate earlier in the day is now gone even though you feel dead and couldn't do another rep. 

If it worked like that, really standard cardio would be useless, you could just do 15-20 minutes of heavy lifting and push yourself to exhaustion pretty easily by super-setting, I wish that it worked like that because I hate treadmills and bikes, though I just run a basic basketball workout these days. I'll lift typically for 45-50 minutes, then 20-35 minutes of a constant motion basketball shooting drill, which for me is a lot more fun than a treadmill.