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bowserthedog said:
I've been losing weight off and on over the past 2 or 3 years. I had become obese at 510 pounds. I have lost 160 pounds and am currently weighing 350 pounds. I tried different diets. First was the Keto diet but for me it was far to riggid and I would end up bindge eating at the first hint of failure. 3 months ago a discovered through pain and inflamation (and xrays) that I have oseto arthritis in my knees. The best way to deal with that problem is massively reducing my weight. I had recently been doing some research on what causes the struggles i was having with bindge eating and had been moving towards striat up calorie counting as my weight loss method. The arithritus was the kick in the ass i needed to really focus on the weight loss. Well.. 90 days and 50 pounds later and im still counting calories and zero bindge eating. I treat myself to things i like every day and just add up everything i eat into the my fitness pal app on my iphone. Im on quite a roll and hope to be down close to 300 by years end. And my long term goal is to get under 200 pounds.

Damn sounds like you are making major progress.  I blew out my knee awhile back and never went to doctor but it eventually healed.  I noticed major difference in way knee felt once I lost like 70 lbs to get to my normal weight.  Well three years later after drinking tons put some of the weight on but now I'm only about 25 lbs from my goal.  I'm sure your knees are already thanking you. 

Never had too much problem binge eating except maybe when smoke weed and get munchies.  Beer was my major problem but going on 15 days not a single drop.



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bowserthedog said:
I've been losing weight off and on over the past 2 or 3 years. I had become obese at 510 pounds. I have lost 160 pounds and am currently weighing 350 pounds. I tried different diets. First was the Keto diet but for me it was far to riggid and I would end up bindge eating at the first hint of failure. 3 months ago a discovered through pain and inflamation (and xrays) that I have oseto arthritis in my knees. The best way to deal with that problem is massively reducing my weight. I had recently been doing some research on what causes the struggles i was having with bindge eating and had been moving towards striat up calorie counting as my weight loss method. The arithritus was the kick in the ass i needed to really focus on the weight loss. Well.. 90 days and 50 pounds later and im still counting calories and zero bindge eating. I treat myself to things i like every day and just add up everything i eat into the my fitness pal app on my iphone. Im on quite a roll and hope to be down close to 300 by years end. And my long term goal is to get under 200 pounds.

Binge eating is quite natural to us and is likely what we have done for millions of years before the 5-meals a day modern routine. One trick is to avoid hyperpalatable processed food (cake, sandwiches, etc.) and only binge on whole foods (steak, eggs, nothing sugary) followed by a 24h fast. You can have your binge if you do the fasting too.

A side problem of long-term calorie counting is that your body will adapt and reduce metabolic rate and burn fewer calories. Binging+fasting is much better for fat loss than calorie counting.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/fasting-effective-calorie-counting

Recently, a second trial directly compared zero-calorie alternate-day fasting and daily caloric restriction in obese adults. The Caloric Reduction as Primary (CRaP) strategy was designed to subtract 400 calories per day from the estimated energy requirements of participants. The ADF group ate normally on eating days, but ate zero calories every other day. The study lasted 24 weeks.

What were the conclusions? First, the most important conclusion was that this was a safe and effective therapy that anybody could reasonably follow. In terms of weight lost, fasting did better, but only marginally. This is consistent with most studies, where, in the short term, any decent diet produces weight loss. However, the devil is in the details. The truncal fat loss, which reflects the more dangerous visceral fat, was almost twice as good with fasting as opposed to CRaP. In fat mass %, there is almost 6 times (!) the amount of loss of fat using fasting.



The though part is to keep doing it - losing weight for a week or two, or even a month sometimes may not be too hard, but trying to keep it going through life can be hard (it depends a lot on your character, and how you like your new diet, or how you loved what you had before).



numberwang said:
Ganoncrotch said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet#Safety

https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/negative-results-eating-carbs-4182.html

As a general rule of thumb, any diet advice from someone who uses the term "fatties" is probably best to ignore for safety sake.

As for fasting being a known healing technique for millennia ... (as in thousands of years) I really have to say [citation needed]

For thousands of years, beginning with philosophers like Hippocrates, Socrates and Plato, fasting was recommended for health reasons. The Bible writes that Moses and Jesus fasted for 40 days for spiritual renewal.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16513299&t=1567463931844

Did you really cite the Bible as a fact for fasting being a good way to heal? Please take that books advice and don't eat for the next 40 days, I'll check back into this thread in a months time to see how you're getting on. You should be really spiritually renewed, and also obviously dead.



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numberwang said:
bowserthedog said:
I've been losing weight off and on over the past 2 or 3 years. I had become obese at 510 pounds. I have lost 160 pounds and am currently weighing 350 pounds. I tried different diets. First was the Keto diet but for me it was far to riggid and I would end up bindge eating at the first hint of failure. 3 months ago a discovered through pain and inflamation (and xrays) that I have oseto arthritis in my knees. The best way to deal with that problem is massively reducing my weight. I had recently been doing some research on what causes the struggles i was having with bindge eating and had been moving towards striat up calorie counting as my weight loss method. The arithritus was the kick in the ass i needed to really focus on the weight loss. Well.. 90 days and 50 pounds later and im still counting calories and zero bindge eating. I treat myself to things i like every day and just add up everything i eat into the my fitness pal app on my iphone. Im on quite a roll and hope to be down close to 300 by years end. And my long term goal is to get under 200 pounds.

Binge eating is quite natural to us and is likely what we have done for millions of years before the 5-meals a day modern routine. One trick is to avoid hyperpalatable processed food (cake, sandwiches, etc.) and only binge on whole foods (steak, eggs, nothing sugary) followed by a 24h fast. You can have your binge if you do the fasting too.

How long has civilization been around?
Mesopotamia is the site of the earliest developments of the Neolithic Revolution from around 10,000 BCE, with civilizations developing from 6,500 years ago.
Source - Google.
Legit wondering if you're serious in this thread or actually joking?


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Ganoncrotch said:
numberwang said:

Binge eating is quite natural to us and is likely what we have done for millions of years before the 5-meals a day modern routine. One trick is to avoid hyperpalatable processed food (cake, sandwiches, etc.) and only binge on whole foods (steak, eggs, nothing sugary) followed by a 24h fast. You can have your binge if you do the fasting too.

How long has civilization been around?
Mesopotamia is the site of the earliest developments of the Neolithic Revolution from around 10,000 BCE, with civilizations developing from 6,500 years ago.
Source - Google.
Legit wondering if you're serious in this thread or actually joking?

Humans or hominid like the homo erectus are much older than modern agricultural civilization. They have been hunter-gatherers for millions of years (before that scavengers) and eat mostly meat. There was no regular snacking of carbs 5 times a day.

Meat, Cooked Foods Needed for Early Human Brain

https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html

Neanderthals' main food source was definitely meat

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190219111704.htm

Who Were the Hunter-Gatherers?

https://www.history.com/topics/pre-history/hunter-gatherers

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Ganoncrotch said:
numberwang said:

For thousands of years, beginning with philosophers like Hippocrates, Socrates and Plato, fasting was recommended for health reasons. The Bible writes that Moses and Jesus fasted for 40 days for spiritual renewal.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16513299&t=1567463931844

Did you really cite the Bible as a fact for fasting being a good way to heal? Please take that books advice and don't eat for the next 40 days, I'll check back into this thread in a months time to see how you're getting on. You should be really spiritually renewed, and also obviously dead.

Selective reading and ad hominem.



numberwang said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Did you really cite the Bible as a fact for fasting being a good way to heal? Please take that books advice and don't eat for the next 40 days, I'll check back into this thread in a months time to see how you're getting on. You should be really spiritually renewed, and also obviously dead.

Selective reading and ad hominem.

You are correct I did not read passed you quoting bible as fact in terms of something you could literally follow as a diet/health plan.

As per the type of pre human which existed 2.8 million years, you're talking about monkey with a stick that ate when it could and died when it couldn't, again looking to how a wild animal eats for diet advice isn't great when you want to live into your teens.

But aye I choose to stop reading your posts here after this one, if you believe what you are typing regarding your advice to "fatties" then there isn't much more that I would ask other than you at least warn of the likelyhood of increased heart attacks when it comes to a carb free diet being recommended to others, as well as the decrease in energy and concentration which come with it as well as how the popularity of the Atkins diet collapsed after deaths which came about from it hence why it gets lots of different cool sounding names now while remaining just as dangerous and having such limited gains after the initial drop in weight as well as the bodies reaction to hitting starvation and how that can make your body store fat when food is available.

Correct as well I would say to suggest that I'm attempting to take apart your argument based on your views on this subject as a whole, you are dropping nuggets of advice which people have died following, I think it would be important on a thread based on health to point out a person who is suggesting such things.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/05/29/atkins-diet-may-cause-heart-failure-major-new-protein-study/

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20180828/low-carb-diet-may-up-odds-for-an-early-death#1

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I have reached my ideal weight of 200lbs (91Kg). I actually had to bulk up and put on weight to get there. Now my weight ranges between 195 -203 lbs day to day. Since I've reached my goal I've been trying to set some new fitness objectives. I want to get leaner, so reduce body fat percentage. I also want to become a better runner.

My knees are a war zone. The doctor said I should probably lose weight to relieve the stress on them. Not too interested in that right now though.



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Signalstar said:
I have reached my ideal weight of 200lbs (91Kg). I actually had to bulk up and put on weight to get there. Now my weight ranges between 195 -203 lbs day to day. Since I've reached my goal I've been trying to set some new fitness objectives. I want to get leaner, so reduce body fat percentage. I also want to become a better runner.

My knees are a war zone. The doctor said I should probably lose weight to relieve the stress on them. Not too interested in that right now though.

Maybe try elliptical machine or something you can spin.  Way easier on knees. I should know because I blew out something on knee once on treadmill.  Never had that problem on elliptical.