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Forums - Sports Discussion - The NFL Thread 2019: The Kansas City Chiefs Win Super Bowl LIV

 

Who do you believe will have a stronger defense in 2020?

Patriots 2 66.67%
 
Steelers 1 33.33%
 
Total:3
Chris Hu said:
Despite being low scoring today's game the opener was actually pretty good.

Must have been watching a different game from me.



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I might have found a much cheaper solution, not sure why NFL is so greedy when alternatives offer the same thing or better for half the price.



Packers defense that good or is the bears offenses that bad? I lean towards the latter.



I love the patriots only because everybody hates them. I do wonder who they will be playing in Feb via the patriots invitational.



RolStoppable said:
Chrkeller said:
Packers defense that good or is the bears offenses that bad? I lean towards the latter.

Packers defense is that good, but the Bears offense is admittedly mediocre.

As for the thread title, during last year's Super Bowl the NFL thread received one post because nobody bothered to watch the Super Bowl. There's more interest in watching Trubisky than the Patriots.

Both of the posts were made by me, one of which was solely dedicated to wishing I was watching the Patriots. I'm not sure that's exactly how you want to be gauging interest.

Beyond that, last night was (probably) far more about the Bears being awful than the Packers being good. We'll see how things turn out, but the Packers' defense probably isn't responsible for Matt Nagy trying to win a game by having Mitch Trubisky throw the ball 50 times, nor are they especially responsible for the Bears 100+ yards of penalties, or for Trubisky overthrowing seemingly every other pass by at least 5 yards.



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MTZehvor said:
RolStoppable said:

Packers defense is that good, but the Bears offense is admittedly mediocre.

As for the thread title, during last year's Super Bowl the NFL thread received one post because nobody bothered to watch the Super Bowl. There's more interest in watching Trubisky than the Patriots.

Both of the posts were made by me, one of which was solely dedicated to wishing I was watching the Patriots. I'm not sure that's exactly how you want to be gauging interest.

Beyond that, last night was (probably) far more about the Bears being awful than the Packers being good. We'll see how things turn out, but the Packers' defense probably isn't responsible for Matt Nagy trying to win a game by having Mitch Trubisky throw the ball 50 times, nor are they especially responsible for the Bears 100+ yards of penalties, or for Trubisky overthrowing seemingly every other pass by at least 5 yards.

In their defense, they only traded 3 picks to move up one spot and draft Trubisky at 2 (in the same draft Mahomes and Watson went 10 and 12 respectively), and they only hired Nagy specifically to coach a Trubisky offense. So at least they're not that committed to him.



I enjoyed the game. Always nice to watch two good defenses going at it. Packers D will be better than most people expected.

Nagy was trying to be too smart for his own good. A real case of Josh McDaniels going on here.



RolStoppable said:
MTZehvor said:

Both of the posts were made by me, one of which was solely dedicated to wishing I was watching the Patriots. I'm not sure that's exactly how you want to be gauging interest.

Beyond that, last night was (probably) far more about the Bears being awful than the Packers being good. We'll see how things turn out, but the Packers' defense probably isn't responsible for Matt Nagy trying to win a game by having Mitch Trubisky throw the ball 50 times, nor are they especially responsible for the Bears 100+ yards of penalties, or for Trubisky overthrowing seemingly every other pass by at least 5 yards.

I've watched the Packers defense for years and it's not normal that they can defend well against both the pass and the run; being effective against the run is why the Bears threw more than they would have liked. The Packers also got a lot more pressure than usual upfront.

A better argument for Pack-hating is that week 1 doesn't mean much, because we've seen it time and time again that week 1 delivered shocking results and then a week later most of the surprise teams - be it good or bad surprise - became what they were expected to be.

I never said that the Packers' defense wasn't improved, just that I'm putting the majority of Chicago's offensive struggles on the Bears rather than the Packers for the moment, at least until GB shows they can consistently do this.

The Bears' running attack was less effective than usual, sure, but their passing attack was also much less effective as well, and relative to rushing, even more so (the Bears averaged a full yard less per attempt passing compared with last season, versus half a yard less rushing per attempt compared with last season). So switching from something you're struggling with in order to focus on something you're struggling with even more, isn't exactly common sensical. It also doesn't make sense to give up on the rushing game that early, given that running the ball was the strength of the Bears offense last season. The Patriots/Packers/Saints wouldn't give up on throwing the ball if Brady/Rodgers/Brees was struggling after just 12 attempts, so why completely abandon the running game?



This AB shit is hilarious



I hope not a single team touches AB. Clearly not worth the drama.