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Forums - Sports Discussion - The NFL Thread 2019: The Kansas City Chiefs Win Super Bowl LIV

 

Who do you believe will have a stronger defense in 2020?

Patriots 2 66.67%
 
Steelers 1 33.33%
 
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hatmoza said:
Wow. The refs screwed the pats out of two scoring runs. Phrased as "controversial calls" but to people who watched the game it's more like "absolute bullshit calls". The pats legit got a fumble and had a clear path to the endzone but the refs called it dead and gave the ball back to KC, only for the call to be over ruled as a fumble. The pats got the ball but not the returned touchdown it should have been. Another play is a touchdown pass by brady that the refs called short because they thought the receiver stepped out of bounds when he clearly didn't.
Fuck the refs.

Refs were unusually awful, but the Patriots have enough problems of their own making to worry about. In my mind, you only get to mention refs when you're not consistently shooting yourselves in the foot. Meyers catches the easy TD pass and neither of these plays matter.



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The Seahawks have had multiple chances to comeback and take over this game and they have failed to cash in on every single one of them.
That stupid personal foul from Metcalf was a huge shot in the foot. Completely killed their momentum. Now, with the score 28-9 with 11 minutes left, they need a miracle to win this one.



RolStoppable said:

@MTZehvor Change the thread title to "The Patriots are really doomed."

Just think about it. The Bills could win the AFC East. The very same Bills that still nobody takes serious.

I've watched this team go to the AFC championship with Tom Brady throwing to Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney. Hasn't looked great recently, but I still believe they'll get it together. It's (unfortunately) a ton of growing pains from trying to integrate a bunch of new pieces on offense recently.



Fortunately for New England, they still play in a joke division and have a cupcake schedule. They'll be fine.

Week 15: Ravens vs Jets, Pats @ Bengals, Queefs vs Denver. Advantage: New England, then Baltimore, then Queefs
Week 16: Ravens @ Browns, Pats vs Bills, Queefs @ Bears. Advantage: Baltimore, then Pats, then Queefs
Week 17: Ravens vs Steelers, Pats vs Miami, Queefs vs Sparklers. Advantage: Pats by a long shot. Then Baltimore, then Queefs

Only way I think NE would be in trouble is if they dropped to the #3 seed but as you can see they have a much much easier schedule remaining than KC and Baltimore.

A bigger problem looming for them is what a pile of trash awaits KC in the WC round. Does anyone in their right mind think Buffalo or Tennessee or Pittsburgh have the offenses to take KC out in the first round? What NE needs is for Baltimore to stumble down the stretch so they can reclaim the #1 seed and we'd see BAL/KC in round two. I don't think NE has the offense to outlast KC in round two and then go to Baltimore and win an AFCCG.

NFC playoffs look infinitely better, with talented and fun to watch teams from top to bottom. I really hope the NFCE winner is 6-10 and gets to host a 12-13 win NFCW runner up.



MTZehvor said:
RolStoppable said:

@MTZehvor Change the thread title to "The Patriots are really doomed."

Just think about it. The Bills could win the AFC East. The very same Bills that still nobody takes serious.

I've watched this team go to the AFC championship with Tom Brady throwing to Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney. Hasn't looked great recently, but I still believe they'll get it together. It's (unfortunately) a ton of growing pains from trying to integrate a bunch of new pieces on offense recently.

You can get away with lack of throwing weapons if you have a good o-line and running game. Last year their weapons looked spent but they still had a good o-line and the running game was great in the playoffs. This year their weapons are even worse, the o-line is a shambles and the running game is non-existent. They just had 104 rush yards and 20 of them were from Tom Brady. 104 rush yards against the 30th ranked run defense and 20 were Brady.

The just got boo'd off the field in New England, where they won 21 straight games. I think that's pretty gross, but I can't blame them for being frustrated with the embarrassing product being put on the field.



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Insanity to me that the Steelers are 8-5, this is after losing star RBs in the last few years, then losing star WR, and finally the QB issues. I honestly thought that this would be the first year that Mike Tomlin's Steelers would end with a losing record.



Patriots are 0-3 against the AFC division leaders. If Patriots were in any other division they would be floating around 0.500. The same can be said about the 9-4 Bills. In any other division they would be sub 0.500. Give either team the cardinals with 7 games against the ravens, 49ers, seahawks and rams and they would easily be handed 6 losses, maybe 7. The NFC is stacked with good teams this year and Patriots don't play any of them because they drew the NFC east this year. Meanwhile the ravens had to go through the 49ers, Rams, and Seahawks.



Dyotropic said:

Patriots are 0-3 against the AFC division leaders. If Patriots were in any other division they would be floating around 0.500. The same can be said about the 9-4 Bills. In any other division they would be sub 0.500. Give either team the cardinals with 7 games against the ravens, 49ers, seahawks and rams and they would easily be handed 6 losses, maybe 7. The NFC is stacked with good teams this year and Patriots don't play any of them because they drew the NFC east this year. Meanwhile the ravens had to go through the 49ers, Rams, and Seahawks.

Patriots are gonna have enough issues just beating the Bills for their division this year. The thought of that should be painful enough, so not sure why we have to keep adding insult to injury. Is this how people get their kicks these days?



Between the 20 years of easy playoff positioning thanks to their doodoo division, however many Super Bowls, and all the cheating, why would people not be happy that the Patriots have been meh at best?



The Saints could have easily won yesterday they just scored to fast on their final possession. Oh well, at least Michael Thomas is still on pace to beak the single season reception record and he already set a new franchise record for most receiving yards in a season. Pro Football Focus has no clue what they are talking about since Michael Thomas has easily been the best wide receiver in the NFL the last three season. Again Amari Cooper is nowhere close to being the best wide receiver in the NFL. Also Michael Thomas had a pretty good rookie season so he easily had the best four years to start a career of any wide receiver in the NFL.