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Barkley said:
chakkra said:

Well, No one is buying a Switch because of Mario Galaxy or Zelda WindWaker. So if they're not selling hardware what's the point in keeping them exclusive when you can make money from them elsewhere?

Mario & Zelda are very valuable IP's and their are reasons to keep those IP's as intrinsically linked with your company and hardware as possible, though even so Mario is on mobile, with galaxy on nvidia shield in china. Cuphead and Ori are not valuable IP.

But here we are not talking just about Ori and Cuphead, we are talking about all the other games that people were expecting to make the jump (with some even going as far as to mention Halo and Ori 2).

Now, which Switch exclusives do you think would benefit from this "partnership"?



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JRPGfan said:

My question is..... if Ludicrous is able to give a short, sweet, precise answear, that leaves no room for confusion.

Why the hell cant the guys at Xbox do the same?


Why do they give messy answears like this:

No offense but you've read PR before, right? Why are you surprised or bothered by wordy, fluffy PR? That's how these work. Outlet asks Microsoft for a statement regarding something, Microsoft sends back a PR response that paints them in the best light possible and answers their question. There is no mess, there is no room for confusion. Unless you're looking for it. Again, just look at your first post here. Does it really matter what MS would have said? You weren't going to read it, whatever it was wasn't going to be good enough.

DonFerrari said:

Probably because Ludicrous is doing his interpretation and simplification and that isn't the true message MS is giving.

Better yet, let's accuse everyone of spinning since MS doesn't spin things.

Oh please, bestow upon us what this "true message" is lol. Should be hilarious.

Also, I never said or implied that Microsoft doesn't spin things. They're a business, they have PR, they spin things. Just like every publisher, just like Sony, just like Nintendo. Of course, the difference is I would expect an employee of any of these companies to spin and use fluff in PR. They're literally getting paid for it. What I don't get is any time there's MS talk the threads are full of people who don't use Xbox spinning and applying their own PR to Microsoft's PR. I don't really ever even click on comparable Nintendo or Sony threads because I'm just not interested, but when I do, I certainly don't see posters who prefer Xbox or Nintendo doing the same thing. So yeah, I'll call that nonsense out, because it is in fact utter nonsense. Hope that helps.



RolStoppable said:


"A lot of things that Microsoft did during the last several years don't make sense from the strict point of view of a console manufacturer, so there's not necessarily some coherent ulterior motive behind their actions. One of these things being the idea that exclusive games aren't important, so Microsoft didn't replace closed studios with new ones for years; eventually somebody realized that Microsoft needs to have their own content whether the future of their gaming business is consoles or streaming, so they made a U-turn on that call."

I actually agree with you there. It has been hard to keep up with MS decisions in the last couple of years. I just find it hard to believe that they would be doing this just to get a few bucks from extra sales.

"An exclusive portfolio of IPs is indeed very important, but Microsoft tossed that overboard when they decided to make all of their future games available on Xbox and PC. That's a strategy that undermines the goal of selling as many Xbox consoles as possible and it does more damage than putting low profile IPs on Switch, because IPs like Halo, Forza and Gears have more pull."

Again, I agree to some extent. I think they are making a terrible mistake by releasing their exclusive games day one on PC. I think they should wait at least one year before doing it.



LudicrousSpeed said:
JRPGfan said:

My question is..... if Ludicrous is able to give a short, sweet, precise answear, that leaves no room for confusion.

Why the hell cant the guys at Xbox do the same?


Why do they give messy answears like this:

No offense but you've read PR before, right? Why are you surprised or bothered by wordy, fluffy PR? That's how these work. Outlet asks Microsoft for a statement regarding something, Microsoft sends back a PR response that paints them in the best light possible and answers their question. There is no mess, there is no room for confusion. Unless you're looking for it. Again, just look at your first post here. Does it really matter what MS would have said? You weren't going to read it, whatever it was wasn't going to be good enough.

DonFerrari said:

Probably because Ludicrous is doing his interpretation and simplification and that isn't the true message MS is giving.

Better yet, let's accuse everyone of spinning since MS doesn't spin things.

Oh please, bestow upon us what this "true message" is lol. Should be hilarious.

Also, I never said or implied that Microsoft doesn't spin things. They're a business, they have PR, they spin things. Just like every publisher, just like Sony, just like Nintendo. Of course, the difference is I would expect an employee of any of these companies to spin and use fluff in PR. They're literally getting paid for it. What I don't get is any time there's MS talk the threads are full of people who don't use Xbox spinning and applying their own PR to Microsoft's PR. I don't really ever even click on comparable Nintendo or Sony threads because I'm just not interested, but when I do, I certainly don't see posters who prefer Xbox or Nintendo doing the same thing. So yeah, I'll call that nonsense out, because it is in fact utter nonsense. Hope that helps.

The true meaning? Is that they made a convoluted mess that can mean anything until it happens.

No user here spin more than MS, so that type of accusation is ludicrous.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, people were arguing Halo on Switch SHOULD happen. Not that it will happen. Perhaps you didn't read the thread title.

This article is also being taken out of context. They're talking about the NEW games being created by their recently purchased studios. "As these new studios transitioned in, we were aware of some existing commitments to other platforms and will honor them. However, going forward these new studios will focus on making games for our platforms."

Maybe Switch support is over for MS, we don't know. But we can still discuss what we would like MS to put on Switch.

OP yes, he was saying it should. Some other were acting more like it will, and is already happening (like Ori) and would continue to happen.

Even if people are confident Halo is coming to Switch, this article is in regard to new studios creating content for MS platforms.

This is not necessarily the end of MS allowing support on Switch.



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Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

OP yes, he was saying it should. Some other were acting more like it will, and is already happening (like Ori) and would continue to happen.

Even if people are confident Halo is coming to Switch, this article is in regard to new studios creating content for MS platforms.

This is not necessarily the end of MS allowing support on Switch.

If you are porting you can consider that creating new content, for Switch that will be new.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Even if people are confident Halo is coming to Switch, this article is in regard to new studios creating content for MS platforms.

This is not necessarily the end of MS allowing support on Switch.

If you are porting you can consider that creating new content, for Switch that will be new.

No.

Also, take into consideration they're porting the first Ori game to Switch while the sequel is coming to Xbox and PC in the near future. Seems like they're using the Switch for extra revenue and maybe to create interest in the series. That's the argument I made about why old Halo games should be on Switch.



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Ganoncrotch said:
QUAKECore89 said:
Ugh come on, just at least two more Xbox games on the Switch.

Rare Replay and Ori 2 then you're free to stop planning.

Ya know, with a hacked Switch you could probably get just about everything from Rare Replay up until OG XB and the X360 games on there on the Switch, just saying if you were dying for Banjo on Switch running in HD, you can do that right now with a tool from amazon/ebay but... you'll wanna move your Nintendo account off the system first!

That's half the reason I was planning to get that revision with the updated battery so that I can hack my day 1 Switch after taking my EU/US and Jap accounts from it along with the 200-300 games I own on them.

Um thank you, i guess, but hacking is kinda waste of time since most emulators are not that perfect. Well, anyway... I was just interested more to support Microsoft by double dipping.

So.. yeah, i have a 2TB Xbox One S and PS4 but... have no time for home consoles. xD



QUAKECore89 said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Ya know, with a hacked Switch you could probably get just about everything from Rare Replay up until OG XB and the X360 games on there on the Switch, just saying if you were dying for Banjo on Switch running in HD, you can do that right now with a tool from amazon/ebay but... you'll wanna move your Nintendo account off the system first!

That's half the reason I was planning to get that revision with the updated battery so that I can hack my day 1 Switch after taking my EU/US and Jap accounts from it along with the 200-300 games I own on them.

Um thank you, i guess, but hacking is kinda waste of time since most emulators are not that perfect. Well, anyway... I was just interested more to support Microsoft by double dipping.

So.. yeah, i have a 2TB Xbox One S and PS4 but... have no time for home consoles. xD

Wants rare replay....

Doesn't want emulation

Well okay then. I wasn't aware the Xbox one had N64 hardware in it! That's pretty awesome.



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Ganoncrotch said:
QUAKECore89 said:

Um thank you, i guess, but hacking is kinda waste of time since most emulators are not that perfect. Well, anyway... I was just interested more to support Microsoft by double dipping.

So.. yeah, i have a 2TB Xbox One S and PS4 but... have no time for home consoles. xD

Wants rare replay....

Doesn't want emulation

Well okay then. I wasn't aware the Xbox one had N64 hardware in it! That's pretty awesome.

Wait what?