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PotentHerbs said:

This thread has been all about MS PR.

Who said anything about Xbox IP's being interesting? There is little incentive to invest in the Xbox ecosystem. 

If no one cared for Xbox IPs than threads like these would be barran. But seems we have 14 pages and counting on comments curious to know where these IPs land. Why are you in here if you dont care for Xbox IPs?

Seems there is a good reason to invest into the eco system because everyone seems to want there games on multiplatform.

Truth hurts i get that.



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CGI-Quality said:
Snoopy said:

You didn't ask me what type of sources you wanted.

The sources showed compelling reasons why movie theaters will be going away soon. Not to mention I gave you a link on youtube that shows movie theaters are closing in a lot of communities, my included. Torillian's source proves me right as well. Stagnating growth is usually the first sign of a business going under unless they change their business model completely.

Torillian’s source actually refuted what you were saying and did so without opinion (unlike what you provided). Call it what you want, but movie theaters aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. 

Torillian’s source showed the movie theater count in the US is staying at the same level for quite some time. That is the first sign the theater business is going to collapse eventually. Soon all the major picture film studios will have their own streaming service or do partnerships with Netflix. In order to keep the consumer engage in their service, they must release new content all the time. Once these movies are day one on a streaming service, say goodbye to movie theaters.



Azzanation said:
PotentHerbs said:

This thread has been all about MS PR.

Who said anything about Xbox IP's being interesting? There is little incentive to invest in the Xbox ecosystem. 

If no one cared for Xbox IPs than threads like these would be barran. But seems we have 14 pages and counting on comments curious to know where these IPs land. Why are you in here if you dont care for Xbox IPs?

Seems there is a good reason to invest into the eco system because everyone seems to want there games on multiplatform.

Truth hurts i get that.

How many people in this thread are clamoring for Xbox exclusives compared to the amount of people criticizing MS PR? Xbox One would be doing better if consumers actually wanted to invest in the Xbox ecosystem.

Just the facts, man.



PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

The average consumer doesn’t read any of this stuff.

There was zero contradiction in that GamePass on all platforms quote.

Phil has said so many conflicting things its hard to keep track of them all. From E3 this year: 

https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/06/19/phil-spencer-xbox-focus-is-on-software-and-services-not-console-sales

"Spencer further defended Microsoft's strategy. 'There’s always the core that kind of comes back [with]: 'You’re reducing the need to buy an Xbox.' I actually find that in reality people play on a console because they enjoy playing on a television on the couch with a controller in their hands, and it’s an experiential thing more than it is trying to sell an individual device. To shorten it: We focus on the player; we don’t focus on the device."

The average consumer will definitely see this headline as most major gaming sites will cover it.

That’s cool but doesn’t change or relate to anything I said. And obviously E3 news will be more covered than other news cycles, but the average consumer still won’t see it. The average video game consumer doesn’t pay attention to E3. Its for hardcore gamers. Reading video game news is for hardcore gamers. Which just makes it funnier when hardcore gamers act like they have no idea what Microsoft is saying.



PotentHerbs said:

How many people in this thread are clamoring for Xbox exclusives compared to the amount of people criticizing MS PR? Xbox One would be doing better if consumers actually wanted to invest in the Xbox ecosystem.

Just the facts, man.

Ask all those Switch owners who can finally play games like Cuphead and Ori than come back to your original comment. Or better yet, all those Steam users who get to play Halo MCC. Seems like alot of gamers are happy with the decisions. And here you are acting as if Xbox has no games to care about.

Gamers already want to see Ori 2 on multiplatform.

The fact there is such a big interest with threads about MS IPs goes to show alot of people actually care for them or want them. 

I can tell you one thing, i wont be investing my time in threads about IPs i could care less about. 

And here you are in a MS thread about there PR talk about there 1st party games. Obvious is obvious.



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Azzanation said:
PotentHerbs said:

How many people in this thread are clamoring for Xbox exclusives compared to the amount of people criticizing MS PR? Xbox One would be doing better if consumers actually wanted to invest in the Xbox ecosystem.

Just the facts, man.

Ask all those Switch owners who can finally play games like Cuphead and Ori than come back to your original comment. Or better yet, all those Steam users who get to play Halo MCC. Seems like alot of gamers are happy with the decisions. And here you are acting as if Xbox has no games to care about.

Gamers already want to see Ori 2 on multiplatform.

The fact there is such a big interest with threads about MS IPs goes to show alot of people actually care for them or want them. 

I can tell you one thing, i wont be investing my time in threads about IPs i could care less about. 

And here you are in a MS thread about there PR talk about there 1st party games. Obvious is obvious.

You tried to spin this thread, majorly a discussion about MS PR, to posters on this forum who apparently have an interest in MS IP's. How many other threads on this site, discussing actual MS IP's, get this amount of discussion? 

Anyways, this isn't the only MS related thread I post on.



LudicrousSpeed said:
PotentHerbs said:

Phil has said so many conflicting things its hard to keep track of them all. From E3 this year: 

https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/06/19/phil-spencer-xbox-focus-is-on-software-and-services-not-console-sales

"Spencer further defended Microsoft's strategy. 'There’s always the core that kind of comes back [with]: 'You’re reducing the need to buy an Xbox.' I actually find that in reality people play on a console because they enjoy playing on a television on the couch with a controller in their hands, and it’s an experiential thing more than it is trying to sell an individual device. To shorten it: We focus on the player; we don’t focus on the device."

The average consumer will definitely see this headline as most major gaming sites will cover it.

That’s cool but doesn’t change or relate to anything I said. And obviously E3 news will be more covered than other news cycles, but the average consumer still won’t see it. The average video game consumer doesn’t pay attention to E3. Its for hardcore gamers. Reading video game news is for hardcore gamers. Which just makes it funnier when hardcore gamers act like they have no idea what Microsoft is saying.

How does it not relate? Phil has made many different statements about Games Pass just this year, that either sound like MS is all in for the next generation, or that MS is ready to transition the Xbox brand into a streaming service midway next generation. 

These sort of statements/interviews generate discussion on forums like IGN or Reddit, which have millions of average video game consumers reading, upvoting, replying, referencing/ posting past statements made by Phil Spencer, all to have a discourse about the state of Xbox. In the Reddit thread I posted, a good amount of Xbox fans are questioning the value of owning an Xbox next generation. There are millions of people subscribed to that thread, dwarfing VGChartz and ResetEra combined. 

E3 is the most popular gaming convention around. It definitely isn't only viewed by hardcore gamers.



PotentHerbs said:

You tried to spin this thread, majorly a discussion about MS PR, to posters on this forum who apparently have an interest in MS IP's. How many other threads on this site, discussing actual MS IP's, get this amount of discussion? 

Anyways, this isn't the only MS related thread I post on.

Huh what spin? I just find it funny that people think Xbox has no games yet are so caught up in where these no games are going to land.

You just proved these people exist by stating there is nothing worth investing into an Xbox for but seem rather interested in the PR outcome.

Question: Why do you care about the PR of a conpany about there line up of games when you claim there is nothing interesting in owning an Xbox for?

Again i wouldnt be in threads about a company i have no interests in, about there 1st party lineup i dont care for and could care even less weather they PR yes or PR no if they go multiplat. 



PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

That’s cool but doesn’t change or relate to anything I said. And obviously E3 news will be more covered than other news cycles, but the average consumer still won’t see it. The average video game consumer doesn’t pay attention to E3. Its for hardcore gamers. Reading video game news is for hardcore gamers. Which just makes it funnier when hardcore gamers act like they have no idea what Microsoft is saying.

How does it not relate? Phil has made many different statements about Games Pass just this year, that either sound like MS is all in for the next generation, or that MS is ready to transition the Xbox brand into a streaming service midway next generation. 

These sort of statements/interviews generate discussion on forums like IGN or Reddit, which have millions of average video game consumers reading, upvoting, replying, referencing/ posting past statements made by Phil Spencer, all to have a discourse about the state of Xbox. In the Reddit thread I posted, a good amount of Xbox fans are questioning the value of owning an Xbox next generation. There are millions of people subscribed to that thread, dwarfing VGChartz and ResetEra combined. 

E3 is the most popular gaming convention around. It definitely isn't only viewed by hardcore gamers.

I don't know of any comments he'd made that makes it seem as if they'd abandon hardware mid gen. Even the link you posted is just a snippet of a bigger interview where he says they view the powerful Xbox hardware as a critical piece of the puzzle. Which goes directly against what you're saying.

Which is a common theme in this thread. Spinning, exaggerating, applying personal bias or views on simple comments, not reading or using full articles. This "confusing" Microsoft PR is only confusing because some make it that way.



trasharmdsister12 said:
I find it strange that no one has pointed out the simplest explanation for how the two pieces of PR don't conflict each other at all.

Right now GamePass is on PC and X1. The games on these hardware platforms are different despite them both being GamePass. By this set-up, GamePass on other platforms could also restrict which games are available on those platforms. GamePass on PS could exclude MS's first party. I mean, even EA Access or whatever it's called has this set-up where on Xbox One it has a bunch of titles from the 360 era due to the hardware's capability while on PS4 it doesn't. The subscription service can have different libraries available on different platforms and scale the cost based on that. So MS could absolutely bring GamePass to other platforms without bringing any first party content to them.

Just my two cents. GamePass is interesting to me and I've invested in it for the $1 fee to convert my 3 years of live to GamePass Ultimate. Depending on the state of the industry and the library/cost when my subscription is done, I'll see if I want to continue or cut away.

I don't really see PS allowing GamePass with only the 3rd party games that are already on their system and sharing the revenue with MS. They would much more likely make a copycat of it on PS.

Also if you have to make interpretation and clarification it already show their message is at least not well done even though there are claims of it being perfectly clear, simple and that anyone that didn't understood is dumb or game warrior.



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