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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjHn6QEgh4

I wanted to share this video because I think it showcases a couple important points. This youtube creator goes through the court documents of a recent case in which a father claims that the mother of his son has forced him to be transgender. This has been reported by several conservative and centrist outlets with the slant that the father allows the son to wear whatever he wants at home, and that the mother forces the son to dress as a girl: https://thefederalist.com/2018/11/26/mom-dresses-six-year-old-son-girl-threatens-dad-losing-son-disagreeing/ Court documents, however, show the opposite. The mother allows the child to dress as either gender if they so choose, and the father has only boys' clothing at his home and told the mother in emails he will not take his son to a soccer game as a "make-believe girl". 

What I find interesting is not just that this "new" information backs up suspicions I've had about this case from the get go (pretty sure that kids being forced to act as the gender they were assigned at birth is way more common than what was originally being asserted), but that it shows the usefullness of youtube as a media outlet. I don't think a standard news outlet could put in hour aside just to go through court documents and debunk claims made by conservative outlets, but it's important none the less. To be fair, I've currently only gotten to the 27 minute mark on this hour long video so maybe it becomes terrible after that, but what I've seen thus far is well sourced and illuminating for this case. 

I considered using this as a reply to a recent thread about whether allowing kids to be trans was child abuse, but that was not about this case in particular so I thought it best as a thread in itself. 



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Alex Jones' crowd are still harassing Sandy Hook parents for "faking their children's deaths", and talking about Pizzagate.
I think conspiracy theories primarily attract certain people.

Those who spend very little/no time researching stories they've read. And experience cognitive dissonance when presented with contradicting facts.

I've seen a lot of weird stories that sound suspect. Some here on these forums. And upon looking into them, often turn out to be inaccurate, because some key details were wrong/omitted, etc.

Best thing you can do is try to stay as informed as possible about subjects you take an interest in, that carry some importance, before voicing your opinion on them.
But unfortunately some people deliberately spread misinformation.

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I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.



the-pi-guy said:
I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.

I think it is tied to the misconception that LGBT is a choice. (I'm trying my hardest to be attracted to Brad Pit right now, but it's not working...)
It can't be that the person was born that way. That doesn't compute with some people. So they find things to blame.

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the-pi-guy said:
I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.

Yeah, being transgender automatically makes your child's life that much more difficult. Doubly so if you're not ACTUALLY transgender. It's not something any sane parent would impose on their child.  



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the-pi-guy said:
I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.

I honestly don't think I've ever seen that claim being made

what I have seen is opposition to the idea that gender, behavior and psychological states are entirely social constructs

Ironically progressive discourse on matters such as women's fear of men contradicts their stance on the social construct stance since they claim that women are justified in being fearful of men because men are generally physically much larger/stronger



o_O.Q said:
the-pi-guy said:
I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.

I honestly don't think I've ever seen that claim being made

what I have seen is opposition to the idea that gender, behavior and psychological states are entirely social constructs

Ironically progressive discourse on matters such as women's fear of men contradicts their stance on the social construct stance since they claim that women are justified in being fearful of men because men are generally physically much larger/stronger

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239924&page=1#

the thread mentioned in the OP with quite a few people making exactly the claim above. You participated in the thread as well so I'm not sure how you missed them. 



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Torillian said:
o_O.Q said:

I honestly don't think I've ever seen that claim being made

what I have seen is opposition to the idea that gender, behavior and psychological states are entirely social constructs

Ironically progressive discourse on matters such as women's fear of men contradicts their stance on the social construct stance since they claim that women are justified in being fearful of men because men are generally physically much larger/stronger

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239924&page=1#

the thread mentioned in the OP with quite a few people making exactly the claim above. You participated in the thread as well so I'm not sure how you missed them. 

Unfortunately I have several other responsibilities that take up my time and attention, I don't think its fair to expect me to carry the contents of every thread I've participated in within my mind for an extended period of time

I remember the thread but I do not remember anyone making that claim, but I'll look through it quickly and see if I see what is being referred to



Hiku said:
the-pi-guy said:
I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.

I think it is tied to the misconception that LGBT is a choice. (I'm trying my hardest to be attracted to Brad Pit right now, but it's not working...)
It can't be that the person was born that way. That doesn't compute with some people. So they find things to blame.

I dont get those types...

Even in the animal kingdom, theres Gay-lesbian couples.
In denmark we have a pinguine thats gay in the zoo.... it got attention because it tried to "steal" a baby and foster it up.
(the male+female the baby pinguine belonged to beat its arse, and took their kid back)

What happend was the zoo, gave it a "egg" its own, it could hatch.
Now its fostering its own kid too.

If your brain is wired the same way a womens is, and you want to dress like one, go ahead, I say.
ignore the haters.



CladInShadows said:
the-pi-guy said:
I always wonder why people think that there are many parents who want their children to be transgender when they aren't.

Yeah, being transgender automatically makes your child's life that much more difficult. Doubly so if you're not ACTUALLY transgender. It's not something any sane parent would impose on their child.  

Well we have 10.000's if not 100.000's of people who think the earth is flat. Millions of people who think that vaccination does more harm then good. Millions of people who don't believe in climate change, or that poluting and other actions have concequences. Quite a few persons from a certain country own enough weapons to start a small war. So there are plenty of people of whose sanity is doubtful at best. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar