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Was Epstein murdered and should we care?

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He was a spoiled rich boy looking at dodging horny Aryan Nation goons every time he took a shower for the rest of his life. That's a huge comedown from the life of luxury he enjoyed. He was going to be on the world stage with all of his crimes laid bare. He was fucked and he knew it.

I'm going to go with the Occam's Razor theory on this one. There is some bizarre, fucked up shit going on behind the scenes in this world, but in most cases, the truth is far more boring than people like to make it out to be. Dude was able to commit suicide because of either negligence on the part of the prison staff, or he had a damn good defense attorney that was able to convince the prison psychiatrist to take him off of suicide watch.



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Mnementh said:
vivster said:
I actually find it very easy to belive that a weak minded individual would rather be dead than spending time in prison as a high profile pedophile.

Well he was in prison for this before. Yes, the conditions of his incarcaration were a joke, but he was in jail for this stuff before.

He was going to end up in a United States Penitentiary. That's about the hardest time you can do in this country. That's a huge difference from what he got before. So no, he hadn't experienced anything like that. And this time there weren't likely to be any sweetheart deals. He was never going to get out. Narcissists commit suicide in prison all the time once they know the game is up. It's their last "fuck you" to the world and their victims.



SanAndreasX said:
He was a spoiled rich boy looking at dodging horny Aryan Nation goons every time he took a shower for the rest of his life. That's a huge comedown from the life of luxury he enjoyed. He was going to be on the world stage with all of his crimes laid bare. He was fucked and he knew it.

I'm going to go with the Occam's Razor theory on this one. There is some bizarre, fucked up shit going on behind the scenes in this world, but in most cases, the truth is far more boring than people like to make it out to be. Dude was able to commit suicide because of either negligence on the part of the prison staff, or he had a damn good defense attorney that was able to convince the prison psychiatrist to take him off of suicide watch.

I think the other piece of evidence that sways me to your side of the debate is he already attempted suicide. He clearly wanted himself to die.



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SanAndreasX said:
Mnementh said:

Well he was in prison for this before. Yes, the conditions of his incarcaration were a joke, but he was in jail for this stuff before.

He was going to end up in a United States Penitentiary. That's about the hardest time you can do in this country. That's a huge difference from what he got before. So no, he hadn't experienced anything like that. And this time there weren't likely to be any sweetheart deals. He was never going to get out. Narcissists commit suicide in prison all the time once they know the game is up. It's their last "fuck you" to the world and their victims.

You know what, I'm joining the Occam's Razor side. That bit about narcissism is a very good point.





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o_O.Q said:
Xxain said:
Bill clinton flown to this apparent sex ring location 26 times!!!

where are you getting that information from?

Probably heard the info wrong. I'm not sure if Clinton ever went to the island, but flight logs show he did fly on the "Lolita Express" 27 times.



thismeintiel said:
o_O.Q said:

where are you getting that information from?

Probably heard the info wrong. I'm not sure if Clinton ever went to the island, but flight logs show he did fly on the "Lolita Express" 27 times.

One of Epstein's girls said they saw Clinton on the island at least once, but that she wasn't aware of him actually using the 'services' as most others did. Almost as if he were there for business or political reasons but not personal possibly. Could be complete BS who knows. This Vox article touches on that under the Clinton section.

https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton



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Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
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Epstein Had Broken Bones In Neck, Journalist Warned To Drop Story..



He was a piece of shit. Don't care if he was murdered or suicide. The only thing matters is that he is gone now and his bitch ass won't cost tax payer money anymore.



sethnintendo said:
He was a piece of shit. Don't care if he was murdered or suicide. The only thing matters is that he is gone now and his bitch ass won't cost tax payer money anymore.

Yeah but those broken neck bones mean we do have to investigate as to whether suicide could even cause that, because if it's murder, we need to know who. You can say he's a piece of shit all you want, but this guy is connected to so much more shit. So many complete pieces of shit are depending on this guy's secrets dying with him. Of that much there can be no doubt. It's great we won't be paying to keep his disgusting ass alive, but damn, I really wanted to know who all was raping kids with him at his kid raping parties before someone managed to off him. There was no way he'd have gotten away without a life sentence, and no way he'd survive that life sentence without a cellmate killing him, given what he was. I'd have been totally fine with him sticking around long enough for us to drag a bunch of other disgusting predators down with him.