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No. In the Western world at least younger generations are increasingly less religious, but its usually replaced by secularism, not paganism.

It is true that this has led to a more liberal attitude towards non-monogamy, which I for one am very happy about.



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mysteryman said:
Pemalite said:

You of course have zero empirical evidence for such a claim... And as such, said claim can be discarded with equally as much evidence.

Any “evidence” you could submit is simply put there by God to test our faith. 

Theres a reason this argument hasn’t been “won” yet. If Bill Nye can’t do it, then I have little faith in the rest of us.

https://youtu.be/z6kgvhG3AkI

Well no. Because "God" itself is a claim and needs to be tested via the scientific method for it to hold any real legitimacy.

The other components that support then religious indoctrinated "faith" need to be judged on their own individual merits outside of that claim.

The argument has certainly been won, it's the apologetic's who delve into fallacious logic that are trying to keep it going or claim everyone else is incorrect.



I’m Christian and only support monogomy. 1 man per woman on the earth and I think it’s the morally responsible position. Im also vegan and straight edge and right wing on most political positions. What you support is degeneracy not paganism. Pagans often lived in monogomy and simply had tribes and druids. Polygamy is not just going to send you to hell because it is evil, but also the mark of a failing society. The divorce rates are unhealthy as well. Now on the other hand, age gap is something that frustrates me about society when men historically were often a decade older than their female partners. Again I’m very right wing and religious and will be for the rest of my life. There’s nothing boring about monogomy, but there is danger in polygamy. That being said I’m hardly jelous as Im in a healthy relationship with a woman who takes care of her body. she will age well based on her mother and has the personal qualities that mark trust. There are so many women with bodies ruined by tattoos that werent atttractive to me before that. I am simply looking out for incels, children, and the long term stability of society. I was a volcel until 5 years or so. I refused to date thots in college who were loose. Rejecting those women was much better than had I engaged in polygamy. I hope to be married in 2-3 years and never worry about it.

Pagans believed in God and reincarnation (or afterlife). Most polygamists are probably atheist so I doubt they have much in common with pagans. Also, a lot of pictures depict pagans with long hair and shaved bears, the opposite of modern times for current trends.

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teamsilent13 said:

I’m Christian and only support monogomy. 1 man per woman on the earth and I think it’s the morally responsible position. Im also vegan and straight edge and right wing on most political positions.

If you adhere to the Old Testament (And some Christian denominations do! Especially more extreme right-wing sects!) then the support of Polygamy would well and truly be a thing.

teamsilent13 said:

The divorce rates are unhealthy as well.

Some Christian denominations are very anti-divorce as it was a fairly modern invention.

teamsilent13 said:

Pagans believed in God and reincarnation (or afterlife). Most polygamists are probably atheist so I doubt they have much in common with pagans. Also, a lot of pictures depict pagans with long hair and shaved bears, the opposite of modern times for current trends.

Pagans certainly didn't adhere to the middle-eastern, abrahamic God that the Jews, Christians and Muslims believe... In-fact not all Pagans believed in afterlife or reincarnation either.

Remember Pagan by it's definition is a person who holds religious beliefs outside of the main world religions... So it could be someone who believes in the Egyption Gods, Celtic Gods, Hinduism... And more. In short they are eclectic.



Pyro as Bill said:

The natural state of the world was one man having 10+ fuck buddies until religion came along and spoiled it with the monogamy bullshit.

Now that we're free from religion and recent societal norms will we just go back to a more natural state but in HD?

Not really. The average number of sexual partners per person has been in decline for decades:

And the Junior Millennial generation is projected to have even less: https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/sex-relationships/sex/heres-the-average-number-of-sexual-partners-each-generation-has-had-in-their-lifetime/news-story/f114d63057bf898cc8581328d7f31ac5

The rate of virginity has skyrocketed among Millennials: https://theothermccain.com/2019/03/22/generation-incel-15-of-u-s-males-ages-20-29-had-zero-sex-partners-last-year/

Paganism is a form of religion that involves idol worship, sacrifice, and rituals in hopes that things happen: like doing some weird dance for rain, stabbing your daughter to make the winds come so you can sail your fleet to Troy, etc...

Also, it is not religion. If you want to blame sexual morality on anyone, blame this guy:



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Secularism isn't a thing. All humans are 'religious', I'm not even sure it's possible for humans to be irreligious.

Idolatry, child sacrifice (abortion to improve luck), prostitution is the oldest game there is.

@Jumpin Try going back 5000-2000 years ago instead of 50.



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Would certainly be nice to have these kinds of relationships recognized. I mean who gives a shit how many fuckbuddies you have? It shouldn't be anyone's business but yourself.

While people are certainly more open sexually than in the 50s I feel like we're already regressing a bit since the sexual liberation of the 90s.

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Aren't kids nowadays fucking with less people than the previous generation?



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Pemalite said:
mysteryman said:

Any “evidence” you could submit is simply put there by God to test our faith. 

Theres a reason this argument hasn’t been “won” yet. If Bill Nye can’t do it, then I have little faith in the rest of us.

https://youtu.be/z6kgvhG3AkI

Well no. Because "God" itself is a claim and needs to be tested via the scientific method for it to hold any real legitimacy.

The other components that support then religious indoctrinated "faith" need to be judged on their own individual merits outside of that claim.

The argument has certainly been won, it's the apologetic's who delve into fallacious logic that are trying to keep it going or claim everyone else is incorrect.

By it's very unknowable nature, the existence of God cannot be proven. Legitimacy is based on the requirement of faith.

The argument can never be won, because neither side will be deterred from their original stance. Each dismisses the other viewpoint because "they simply don't understand" and the chasm between is too great to bridge.



mysteryman said:

By it's very unknowable nature, the existence of God cannot be proven. Legitimacy is based on the requirement of faith.

The argument can never be won, because neither side will be deterred from their original stance. Each dismisses the other viewpoint because "they simply don't understand" and the chasm between is too great to bridge.

The flying spaghetti monster can't be proven. - Does that mean it has legitimacy because a few select individuals have faith in it?

No. No it doesn't.

The fact is... Anything that can be substantiated via the scientific method is the only thing that has any kind of legitimacy, religion is far removed from any of that.