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zorg1000 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

With what justification do they think that data should be hidden from the people? Do they really prefer being lied upon/spinned around like a spintop?

It's quite possible that NPD has a permanent lock on that data... but who the heck are those idiots that do such pointless exclusivity deals in the first place?

And no, Shadow, the data we have might not be perfect and increasingly hard to get, but that certainly doesn't mean we should stop trying.

They didnt say that, they said there is no incentive for companies to give out data like that to the general public so they dont.

If it weren't so costly, I'd try to go to court with them, blaming them of fraud and tax evasion, that they don't declare all their sales and thus their income. And argue that because of this, it's a public interest to have access to the sales numbers, as it would make fraudulent actions more difficult if everybody had an eye on them.



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zorg1000 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

With what justification do they think that data should be hidden from the people? Do they really prefer being lied upon/spinned around like a spintop?

It's quite possible that NPD has a permanent lock on that data... but who the heck are those idiots that do such pointless exclusivity deals in the first place?

And no, Shadow, the data we have might not be perfect and increasingly hard to get, but that certainly doesn't mean we should stop trying.

They didnt say that, they said there is no incentive for companies to give out data like that to the general public so they dont.

What I'd like to know, and what nobody seems willing or able to explain, is why things are so different in Japan. They have three different sales trackers, two of which are still divulging sales figures publicly. And they're video game magazines. Video game magazines! If a couple of video game magazines can track and publish sales in Japan, then why the hell can't anyone compete with the NPD in the U.S.? Why can't IGN or GameSpot or Game Informer do what Famitsu and Dengeki do? Why can't anyone? Is it the retailers being secretive? Does the NPD Group somehow have their loyalty? Or do some people simply assume that with no real backing?



Shadow1980 said:
zorg1000 said:

They didnt say that, they said there is no incentive for companies to give out data like that to the general public so they dont.

What I'd like to know, and what nobody seems willing or able to explain, is why things are so different in Japan. They have three different sales trackers, two of which are still divulging sales figures publicly. And they're video game magazines. Video game magazines! If a couple of video game magazines can track and publish sales in Japan, then why the hell can't anyone compete with the NPD in the U.S.? Why can't IGN or GameSpot or Game Informer do what Famitsu and Dengeki do? Why can't anyone? Is it the retailers being secretive? Does the NPD Group somehow have their loyalty? Or do some people simply assume that with no real backing?

Well, how about trying to start a tracker in another region? I mean, how long are we yearning already for a tracker for Europe? Maybe instead of trying to outdo NPD we could try and get a tracker for Europe, the EU or at least the Eurozone started.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Shadow1980 said:

What I'd like to know, and what nobody seems willing or able to explain, is why things are so different in Japan. They have three different sales trackers, two of which are still divulging sales figures publicly. And they're video game magazines. Video game magazines! If a couple of video game magazines can track and publish sales in Japan, then why the hell can't anyone compete with the NPD in the U.S.? Why can't IGN or GameSpot or Game Informer do what Famitsu and Dengeki do? Why can't anyone? Is it the retailers being secretive? Does the NPD Group somehow have their loyalty? Or do some people simply assume that with no real backing?

Well, how about trying to start a tracker in another region? I mean, how long are we yearning already for a tracker for Europe? Maybe instead of trying to outdo NPD we could try and get a tracker for Europe, the EU or at least the Eurozone started.

That's already a thing.



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Analyzing crowfunding projects would be a good addition to the site, especially considering how many of them are and how bigger companies seem interested in the concept.



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Doesn't VGC still technically engage in very low-level tracking efforts? If so, what kind of funds would it take to expand those efforts in order to get to NPD levels of accuracy (i.e., 90+% coverage of the market)?



zorg1000 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Well, how about trying to start a tracker in another region? I mean, how long are we yearning already for a tracker for Europe? Maybe instead of trying to outdo NPD we could try and get a tracker for Europe, the EU or at least the Eurozone started.

That's already a thing.

Really? What tracker tracks the EU sales?



Shadow1980 said:
zorg1000 said:

They didnt say that, they said there is no incentive for companies to give out data like that to the general public so they dont.

What I'd like to know, and what nobody seems willing or able to explain, is why things are so different in Japan. They have three different sales trackers, two of which are still divulging sales figures publicly. And they're video game magazines. Video game magazines! If a couple of video game magazines can track and publish sales in Japan, then why the hell can't anyone compete with the NPD in the U.S.? Why can't IGN or GameSpot or Game Informer do what Famitsu and Dengeki do? Why can't anyone? Is it the retailers being secretive? Does the NPD Group somehow have their loyalty? Or do some people simply assume that with no real backing?

Because NPD probably gives a nice sum to gamestores like Gamestop.






konnichiwa said:

Because NPD probably gives a nice sum to gamestores like Gamestop.

So it could very well be bribery to maintain a monopoly?



Bofferbrauer2 said:
zorg1000 said:

That's already a thing.

Really? What tracker tracks the EU sales?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pal-charts-week-36-2019.140568/



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