Yes, in most countries the chance to die in traffic is much higher than to die by a gun... because the gun deaths are so low.

But not in the US of A. In 2017 and 2018 almost 40,000 people died by guns and these numbers overtook the number of traffic deaths. Congratulations!

Not only the chance to die by guns in the USA is more than 10 times than in most Western European countries... the added chance to die in traffic is also much higher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

The chance to die in traffic  in the USA is 4 times higher (per capita) than in the UK and 3 times higher than in Germany.

Thank you Conina. I rest corrected, for the US of A.

Is there a wiki page of countries by video game related deaths?

Folks, don't carry firearms in vehicles. Those combined odds are really bad.

[also see: No Country for Old Men (2007)]  <- - leaving NetFlix this weekend.

so your answer is yes

"there is an inherent contradiction between living in a peaceful nation"

no such thing has ever existed or will ever exist, what do you think prison is for?

"In my country I want social rights"

what is a social right?

"access to housing"

what does this mean? that you want housing for free?

"quality hospitals"

exist

"environmental policies"

to create your computer, your car, your consoles, your video games etc etc etc, harm was inevitably done to the environment, are you willing to give those things up to stop any damage from being done to the environment?

"In other words, I want the stuff that matters in peaceful times. Weapons are for war times. So again unless you believe you are at war, there is no good reason to wish to acquire actual weapons."

"And finally if all these reasons don't get you thinking about how out of place weapons are in a peaceful society"

if someone broke into your home or attacked you on the street what would your response be?

So you're telling me, honestly and seriously, that you do not understand that if an average of 12 deaths per 100k is spread over all the states that sounds terrible, but if you are telling me that it is so vast and there are regions where there are 0 deaths per 100k, that must mean that there is another region where the deaths are 24 per 100k, which is the worst, in the world in terms of gun violence by a long shot.

Btw starting a post with "you're telling me" and then typing a pile of rubbish that wasn't in my post is such amateur hour arguing tactics, keep your words in your own mouth, I do not like them in mine.

Also at your bolded text.... Takes how long to open Google?

"Europe covers about 10,180,000 square kilometres (3,930,000 sq mi)"

"At 3.8 million square miles (9.8 million km²), the United States"

But hey, what do the numbers matter when you want to question someones ability to understand something.

Or were you maybe referring to the European Union? Rather than the continent of Europe? Because those are two different things... but of course you would know that right?

I fucking hate doing this.... but the NRA's hold over so many political candidates probably is strongest on those who had little money going into politics, while I'm sure Trump was approached by them and offered funding directly or indirectly he was probably in a financial situation going into his election where he would have had to rely less on the handout to fund his campaign than someone who wanted to get into politics for a good reason but got corrupted on the way in by having to accept funding from the NRA as the only way into office.

Wow it feels bad to devils advocate on this one.... I need to go take a shower.

I think I get what you're going for here, which is that people who want to murder will murder with a gun where it's available, but if you didn't have a gun you would go and murder with a knife instead, but if that was the case then naturally Knife crime would be lower in the states where gun murder is a lot higher to kinda balance things out.

Where that falls flat to a degree is that knife murder is also higher in the states than say... the UK which has had a number of very high profile knife attacks in key tourist area's in London in the last few years... but still it doesn't reach the US figures for Knife murders per million (Source https://www.euronews.com/2018/05/05/trump-s-knife-crime-claim-how-do-the-us-and-uk-compare- that source btw, offers a lower number of deaths per million than the one I got from Wiki earlier, it's from 2016 instead of 2017 where my other number came from, but I will concede that number varies depending on the study done and the body reporting)

I wouldn't do a comparison of Baseball bat related murders from UK to US... you guys would lose that as we do not know what the sport is unless you call it cricket and put your leg before a wicket... whatever that means!

Your comment does remind me that of all the places I have been.... the USA has never been on that list! I'm not even sure why, for me traveling via plane is something done so often it's like hoping on a bus, perhaps I should key in a visit sometime!

Gonna just say I know I've posted a lot in this thread and have ruffled a few feathers regarding the US and guns and I really don't mean to come off sounding preachy or cold about what could have been done to save those people.... there have been 2 devastating mass shootings in the states and the place has my condolences on a major level, I can't even imagine the terror it must be for families either there or with loved ones at those scenes and again for vg members from the states I'm sorry if the "statistic" posts seem cold and uncaring to 2 horrible events.

Hmmm, that's strange, my country banned semi-automatic rifles and shotguns after a gun massacre in 1996, and 23 years later, we do not live under a totalitarian dictatorship. 

I grew up watching papeye the sailor, and not once did I feel the need to eat some spinach and beat up someone. Then there is video games like Contra 3 on my Super Nintendo when I was 9 yrs old.. Never felt like shooting up the place. This Kevin McCarthy punk can STFU.

I grew up watching the simpsons never aging... now I'm 36 play video games and my Desk has a fully lit kit of the Enterprise E glowing on it... Cursed TV show made me never want to grow old!

Agree of course though, creating a link between video games and gun violence is like attributing all house fires to be the cause of kitchen sinks, because they're always present where house fires happen! It's just one of those things that US politicians and politicians around the world do, and that is when they're asked one question they will answer another, Ask someone about gun crime and they talk about the impact on the youth of video games... completely derails the subject matter and the attention to be on all the wrong things but at least the politician didn't have to answer the real question posed to him.

Just in terms of something like a pistol VS US Gov equipment, just from an unmanned drone point of view

The Bureau of Investigative Journalism estimates the following cumulative statistics about U.S. drone strikes (as of 17 September 2017):^[19]

• Total strikes: 429
• Total killed: 2,514 – 4,023
• Civilians killed: 424 – 969
• Children killed: 172 – 207
• Injured: 1,162 – 1,749

As of January 2014, the U.S. military operates a large number of unmanned aerial systems (UAVs or Unmanned Air Vehicles): 7,362 RQ-11 Ravens; 990 AeroVironment Wasp IIIs; 1,137 AeroVironment RQ-20 Pumas; and 306 RQ-16 T-Hawk small UAS systems and 246 Predators and MQ-1C Grey Eagles; 126 MQ-9 Reapers; 491 RQ-7 Shadows; and 33 RQ-4 Global Hawk large systems.^[1]

^{The Gov has literally thousands of Drones capable of murdering 10+ people per strike, from an altitude beyond what any of these civilian held weapons would ever hope to be able to reach or hit. That count there btw was in 2014... you imagine in the last 5 years they've not made more of them? Thousands more. Those strikes as well were in places thousands of miles from the US home soil, it would be so much easier for them to drone strike people within the same land mass as where the drones are made, would be like shooting fish in a barrel, but the fish in the barrel are all holding knives in their mouth, assured in holding them that they're safe from being shot from above.}

^{Also will say... that's a crazy number of Children and Civilians killed by drones, those things must lose tons of sleep... oh yeah of course, they're unmanned murder machines. ugh.... taken from wiki "Leaked military documents reveal that the vast majority of people killed have not been the intended targets, with approximately 13% of deaths being the intended targets, 81% being other militants, and 6% being civilians" 13% the intended target... that's a lot of collateral damage.}