video games no, GTA yes

there should be some research at least on the effect on perception and importance of human life on kids, teenagers and adults that play GTA

taking into account that not only it is close to real live virtual terrorism, it is the best selling game ever, therefore it is common sense that 10s of millions of children are having access to it despite law restrictions and parents do not give a shit, there should be some research first in order to study the effect on human psychology and then act accordingly

There has been a ton of research done.  There is no link.  Video games don't fuck people up in any way.  

I blame the current state of affairs on the Columbine shooting. It happened back in April of 1999.
The assault weapons ban was passed in 1994 (it expired in 2004), and did not prevent this mass shooting.

The shooters were motivated from watching the movie "The Matrix," which had released only 1 month earlier.
Therefore, I blame Hollywood for glorifying guns - making them look cool to own - much like Hollywood did
with cigarettes for decades. Hollywood is the problem, not video games.

Is this satire?

I mean, its so ridiculous, it is really quite hard to tell.

OBVIOUSLY we don't have videogames in the rest of the world! We got rid of them after THIS disaster!

Certainly not the promotion of crazy right-wing racism and the militarization of those crazy right-wingers that causes the shooting deaths.

That is a flawed logic on your end. Taking drugs and buying a gun are two completely different things. How can you even say they are the same thing? Buying a gun is harmless, buying a car is harmless. Both can be used in a very dangerous manner and they have both killed people. Your comparison is like saying, buying a gun is no different to eating Rat poison. Umm.. yeah is it, Meth is bad, it harms your health, there is no bright side to taking meth. Having a gun is like owning a Sword or big Knife, it can be used for hobbies, people like to collect etc. Drugs? That's a face palm.

You are answering your own debate. Try taking drugs away from people, we have, how has that worked in the land of no drugs? Do people still take drugs? do people still die from drug use? Do drugs still get sold regardless of the law enforcement? You should know the answer to that.

Great, place more laws on gun control, I want them too and I understand people can still have guns with laws in place.. however my debate with you is that it wont make a difference because criminals and killers will still get the guns and still go on massacres. Do you actually think by adding more laws with guns that these things will suddenly stop? especially in a country with a massive black market scene? Why do we have a big death toll on the road? People have to go out and get a license, we enforce the road rules a lot, especially in Australia.. why are there still deaths? Nice having rules in place, feels more like government control than actual life saving. Same with guns. 

You know who else didn't want the public to have guns? Hitler. How did that go for Germany, oh that's right, the public was dictated and couldn't do a thing about it. They couldn't even defend themselves.

Your entire argument is a logical fallacy... You are trying to undermine your opponents views by taking approaches not related to the topic at hand. (I.E. Claiming that users haven't visited/lived in the USA). - Not only do you not know that for sure (I have actually been to the USA.) but adds absolutely zero credibility to your arguments. If anything, does the complete opposite.

Those outside of the USA can form and base their perspectives on the empirical evidence that has been presented and thus make direct comparisons to other pieces of evidence that has been presented. - Evidence being the key word here. - Ignorance is what you are propagating by attempting to discard empirical evidence for your anecdotal evidence... And not the other way around, so stop pretending it is.

This is why some people believe the Earth to be flat, because they would rather opt for their Anecdotal evidence over empirical evidence.

At no point have I refuted any statistics in this thread.  I've simply claimed that many people here seem to lack the context necessary to understand what those numbers mean. In other words, your use of cherry picked stats to form a picture of life in the US is exactly the problem here.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Ding Ding.

Took longer than expected.

You keep mentioning the fact that there is a massive black market scene in the states regarding the sales of guns, what you mean by that is that it's possible to get a weapon illegally in the States very easily, one of the major contributing factors for it being possible for a person to get a weapon where they shouldn't be able to get it... is because there is lots of weapons readily available to a great many people within the law, if I want to get a hold of a gun here where I am I'll need to do some digging around to firstly find a person with one that I can then try to buy it from, if every other person around me could legally buy a gun then it would become a whole lot easier for me to get one by offering someone of my daft mates who needs cash some to go buy me a gun to use.

Take it back to the war on drugs, how much harder would it be to prevent people illegally taking drugs if you were to open up stores which sold drugs to people legally? So you could prevent people from getting access to drugs if they were going to take them to get high or to abuse the substances to the point where they self harm or harm others.... but you perfectly allowed anyone who seemed to have a solid head on them and know how to correctly keep their drugs locked up in a safe where they didn't hurt anyone, so everyone who was planning to keep the drugs and not shoot.... up with them, could buy loads of drugs and keep them in drug safes. Realistically now.... how much more easily would it be for someone who wanted some drugs to do harm with... how much easier has it become in that scenario for them to get drugs from someone? That is why you have such a large marketplace of buying guns illegally, because there are tons of them in circulation there sold perfectly legally to someone, then either stolen or sold to someone who already has a criminal record and wants a gun for a crime.

The context is why there is constructive discussion being had.

We are not cherry-picking statistics to form an idea of what life is like daily in the United States, we are using statistics to point out there is a damn big problem and peoples lives are being lost.

Taking drugs and buying a gun are the same thing. You are buying a product.
How that product is generally used is what makes it nefarious.

Buying drugs is harmless. Guns can be bad and can also harm your health.

And sometimes drugs can save lives. Just like a gun.

Sometimes drugs can be used for hobbies just like a gun. (Amyl/Poppers for example)

So... Are you suggesting we should legalize all drugs and sell them in brick and mortar stores like guns?

The evidence says it does make a difference. Australia.
Australia has solved gun massacres for the time being.

That needs to be recognized and emulated, it's saved lives.

The Road Toll will exist either way... And is being solved via other avenues, legislation/more laws often have a positive impact in reducing road tolls, not to mention various schemes like "Operation Distraction" that is currently underway in South Australia by Police, Ambulance, Metro Fire, Country Fire, State Emergency Services.

I do work in emergency services and I am a road crash technician, when it comes to car accidents and the road death toll in Australia, I am on the front line... In-fact my training in this manner is the exact same training received world-wide.

So yes, we do go out and get a license, yes road rules exist... But you can bet that they don't exist in a damn vacuum, they have a very real positive effect.... Statistically it is when people blatantly ignore the rules that a large portion of accidents do actually occur.
The last Road Crash I attended for example... A Taxi driver overtook a truck illegally and lost his life because of it, he should have known better.

So what could have been done to ensure it never happens on that stretch of road again? Maybe overtaking lanes or general infrastructure, better signage, better education and certainly better laws.

This is why you are wrong.
Gun legislation isn't the complete banning of guns.

Or are you suggesting that a highly advanced, stable, representational democracy is going to suddenly become a dictatorship because it implemented gun legislation?

Keep in mind that Australia was where the USA was on the gun topic decades ago, there was a ton of debate, the same arguments you have presented was the same arguments presented back then... And none of it has come to pass.