DonFerrari said:
This thread have already been discussed recently in VGC.
And PS5 will be as much for hardcore gamers as were PS4, so no point in using that as evidence to say it will cost more. X1 was for a bigger audience, focused on TV but costed 100 more than PS4. And your pool doesn't have any option to say you are wrong or for people to vote the price they think will be.
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Absolutely agreed, what is OP adding to the topic besides distorting discussion with their poll that doesn't assess different beliefs at all, but assumes everybody excepts all the same premises as OP, when many are patently bullshit.
So recently we got statement from SONY that they are willing to focus on hardcore gaming, it means PS5 will be targeted for gamers that concern about graphic, specifict games and specs. From this statement alone it's guaranteed PS5 spec will be far more expensive compared to PS4 spec originally when it was released in 2013. Bullshit. Marketing slogan means nothing of the sort, "hardcore gaming" is merely trying to retain the PS4's aura of "the gamer's gaming console" which was really down to 1) Sony's gamble on memory architecture which allowed better GPU performance for same price 2) MS initial attempt to shove non-gaming features down consumer's throat at further $100 cost (later dropped, but still with worse GPU architecture, not due to lack of dedication to hardware cost, but a bad gamble which meant their architecture spend HW budget on less performant silicon). Certainly trying to interpret it as proof Sony will target relatively more performant niche than PS4 is BS. What else are they going to say when selling newgen home console? "Casual smartphone ports and Video streaming will be focus"?
And what make it worse the price of 7nm chip is still very expensive that they are purposely delayed and trying to wait for the chip to be mature , well optimize and waiting for the price to down a little bit. On top of that we just got news on how Sony warn their customer that they will increase their hardware price for PS5/future hardware, thanks to US tarif. Also the price of RAM probably will increase thanks to Japan and South Koreans dispute and how japan decrease their export of type of chemical and material that used by South koreans to make RAM and silicon. After that you also need to count for price inflation in US. For information and comparison, if we use PS4 price from 2013 (399 USD )and calculate into today price 399 USD is equal to 438 USD. From all this data i gathered i made conclusion that PS5 price or even Scarlet probably going to be price around 499 - 549 USD. It looks expensive, but if you compared to today price inflation that price is still considered cheap (599 USD PS3 if we use inflation calculator is around 740 USD in 2020 )Look bro, you aren't "gathering data", you are reading headlines of generalist media. You have to be full of BS to claim potential RAM price increase without mentioning RAM being cheap to begin with. How is US tariffs critical to general topic of Sony pricing?, countries change their sales tax all the time, this is no different. The inflation angle is really the only part you get right, and why your $499 price is actually plausible, but that actually directly undermines your premise that it will be "expensive" because for all your claims Sony will target more expensive/performant niche relatively speaking, you didn't demonstrate that, if it isn't significantly outpacing inflation. So in the end I don't even disagree with your 499-549 numbers with US specific tariffs possibly affecting US sale price as part of that (not globally relevant, obviously), but what is the point of bringing this up when it's 99% due to utterly obvious inflation and the rest of your points are empty BS?
Last edited by mutantsushi - on 02 August 2019
