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Lafiel said:
apparently I'm a true gamer because I own a Gamecube, which I almost exclusively used to play Soul Calibur 2

but then again I'm not a true gamer as graphics and smooth framerates are important to me and because I'm a millennial - that said I did love/play Demon's Souls/Dark Souls on PS3 and those games had severe issues in that department and I do play quite a lot of 8bit/16bit style games

Both Demon's and Dark plays mostly well.

Demon's Souls I only remember having problems when there are still big lava slugs in the mines, when those are still in the map and you are killing one it gets horrible.

I remember two times my game basically froze, and before those I had frame drops to the low single digits for some good time. But it was them, those damn huge lava slugs, as long as they were dead the framerate would be decent again.

Same for Dark Souls, Blighttown is a horrible place, and nothing can be done about it, I almost always had severe framedrops there, but that place alone. Other places were decent.

Sure, one might have a lot lower tolerance to that than I do, I don't like those but I can deal with them just fine, but even if that's the case, those are amazing games, and one would be missing by not playing them.



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RolStoppable said:
I only buy Nintendo consoles, so no.

CAME HERE TO SAY THIS.



I don't have time to watch videos since I'm a true gamer. Next race is up in 2 minutes.



Glad this this is opinion and not fact about the definition of a true gamer, The meaning of a true gamer doesn't exist in any dictionary or anything credible , "true gamer" is a myth anyone can create . For example "I'm a speedrunner own multiple world records and competed smaller tourney's in my after school when I was younger for fighting games , I also beat Super ghouls and ghost on the super nintendo when I was 6 years old but couldn't beat 2nd stage on Megadrive version of ghouls and ghost and I've beaten games very hard games before, Since I'm a millenial I'm not a true gamer D: . And I wan't 60fps on most of my games I also hate lag online matches .

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Lafiel said:
apparently I'm a true gamer because I own a Gamecube, which I almost exclusively used to play Soul Calibur 2

but then again I'm not a true gamer as graphics and smooth framerates are important to me and because I'm a millennial - that said I did love/play Demon's Souls/Dark Souls on PS3 and those games had severe issues in that department and I do play quite a lot of 8bit/16bit style games

Hmm. Maybe I'm looking back with rose colored glasses, but I never found the frame rate problems in Demon's Souls to be severe. I do remember it happening, but nothing persistent.

At a glance, it looks like breaking boxes was an issue. :)

BraLoD said:
Lafiel said:
apparently I'm a true gamer because I own a Gamecube, which I almost exclusively used to play Soul Calibur 2

but then again I'm not a true gamer as graphics and smooth framerates are important to me and because I'm a millennial - that said I did love/play Demon's Souls/Dark Souls on PS3 and those games had severe issues in that department and I do play quite a lot of 8bit/16bit style games

Both Demon's and Dark plays mostly well.

Demon's Souls I only remember having problems when there are still big lava slugs in the mines, when those are still in the map and you are killing one it gets horrible.

I remember two times my game basically froze, and before those I had frame drops to the low single digits for some good time. But it was them, those damn huge lava slugs, as long as they were dead the framerate would be decent again.

Same for Dark Souls, Blighttown is a horrible place, and nothing can be done about it, I almost always had severe framedrops there, but that place alone. Other places were decent.

Sure, one might have a lot lower tolerance to that than I do, I don't like those but I can deal with them just fine, but even if that's the case, those are amazing games, and one would be missing by not playing them.

I agree that both mostly _play_ fine, but there are plenty of scenes/stages where both games drop frames on PS3.

In DeS everytime you encounter dragons, in the deep mines (2-2), in the bloodlake at the bottom of the Latria Tower (3-2), in both Valley of Defilement (5-1, 5-2) stages, in the Storm Shrine (4-1) and especially when you enter the Storm King fight (4-3) and all little Manta Rays are still alive it shows performance issues - in the last instance it was going what felt like below 10fps for me.

In DS Blighttown with its sub 10fps is ofcourse a well known/discussed problem spot, but the game performs notably below 30fps in dozens of areas on PS3. Pretty much all the dark root areas and it's hydra fight, some instances of the depths, Neo-Londo both with water and once it's drained, the majority of the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith, aswell as a good chunk of the painted world - and I wasn't very happy with the intial stuttering once you enter the Capra Demon fight when I first did that one.

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The use of terms like "true gamer" or "hardcore gamer" being used as marks of superiority over others has always reeked of arrogant elitism to me, and still reminds me of the days of internet Neckbeards throwing hissy fits over the Wii's success because it dared to appeal to people outside their demographic, or as they referred to the them, "filthy casuals".

It's something I sincerely hope gaming will someday outgrow.



I agree with most points apart from the 30FPS thing. Some people have a much more developed vision, and for them, 30FPS is irritatingly slow. I know one person who can't go to cinema due to this, 24FPS is just impossible for him without serious headaches. For people like these, 60FPS do matter a lot, as it means they don't have to take a break every couple minutes because the low framerate is literally giving them headaches.



curl-6 said:

The use of terms like "true gamer" or "hardcore gamer" being used as marks of superiority over others has always reeked of arrogant elitism to me, and still reminds me of the days of internet Neckbeards throwing hissy fits over the Wii's success because it dared to appeal to people outside their demographic, or as they referred to the them, "filthy casuals".

It's something I sincerely hope gaming will someday outgrow.

did you watch the video ?  everybody that owns a Nintendo platform is a "true gamer"

btw while the disdain for non-gamers buying into the Wii craze was pathetic, one complaint about the demographic proved true - the vast majority of them fell out of gaming very quickly and didn't add long term support to the industry/ neglected the Wii successor



Lafiel said:
curl-6 said:

The use of terms like "true gamer" or "hardcore gamer" being used as marks of superiority over others has always reeked of arrogant elitism to me, and still reminds me of the days of internet Neckbeards throwing hissy fits over the Wii's success because it dared to appeal to people outside their demographic, or as they referred to the them, "filthy casuals".

It's something I sincerely hope gaming will someday outgrow.

did you watch the video ?  everybody that owns a Nintendo platform is a "true gamer"

btw while the disdain for non-gamers buying into the Wii craze was pathetic, one complaint about the demographic proved true - the vast majority of them fell out of gaming very quickly and didn't add long term support to the industry/ neglected the Wii successor

The casuals are still gaming, they just game mostly on mobile now as that's the sector that best caters to simple, convenient, pick-up-and-play experiences. The Wii U failed on its own merits, or lack thereof.



I tick a lot of your boxes on what a true gamer is, but I'm honestly not that invested in gatekeeping with regards to video games.