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I don't have time to watch videos since I'm a true gamer. Next race is up in 2 minutes.



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COKTOE said:
Lafiel said:
apparently I'm a true gamer because I own a Gamecube, which I almost exclusively used to play Soul Calibur 2

but then again I'm not a true gamer as graphics and smooth framerates are important to me and because I'm a millennial - that said I did love/play Demon's Souls/Dark Souls on PS3 and those games had severe issues in that department and I do play quite a lot of 8bit/16bit style games

Hmm. Maybe I'm looking back with rose colored glasses, but I never found the frame rate problems in Demon's Souls to be severe. I do remember it happening, but nothing persistent.

At a glance, it looks like breaking boxes was an issue. :)

BraLoD said:
Lafiel said:
apparently I'm a true gamer because I own a Gamecube, which I almost exclusively used to play Soul Calibur 2

but then again I'm not a true gamer as graphics and smooth framerates are important to me and because I'm a millennial - that said I did love/play Demon's Souls/Dark Souls on PS3 and those games had severe issues in that department and I do play quite a lot of 8bit/16bit style games

Both Demon's and Dark plays mostly well.

Demon's Souls I only remember having problems when there are still big lava slugs in the mines, when those are still in the map and you are killing one it gets horrible.

I remember two times my game basically froze, and before those I had frame drops to the low single digits for some good time. But it was them, those damn huge lava slugs, as long as they were dead the framerate would be decent again.

Same for Dark Souls, Blighttown is a horrible place, and nothing can be done about it, I almost always had severe framedrops there, but that place alone. Other places were decent.

Sure, one might have a lot lower tolerance to that than I do, I don't like those but I can deal with them just fine, but even if that's the case, those are amazing games, and one would be missing by not playing them.

I agree that both mostly _play_ fine, but there are plenty of scenes/stages where both games drop frames on PS3.

In DeS everytime you encounter dragons, in the deep mines (2-2), in the bloodlake at the bottom of the Latria Tower (3-2), in both Valley of Defilement (5-1, 5-2) stages, in the Storm Shrine (4-1) and especially when you enter the Storm King fight (4-3) and all little Manta Rays are still alive it shows performance issues - in the last instance it was going what felt like below 10fps for me.

In DS Blighttown with its sub 10fps is ofcourse a well known/discussed problem spot, but the game performs notably below 30fps in dozens of areas on PS3. Pretty much all the dark root areas and it's hydra fight, some instances of the depths, Neo-Londo both with water and once it's drained, the majority of the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith, aswell as a good chunk of the painted world - and I wasn't very happy with the intial stuttering once you enter the Capra Demon fight when I first did that one.

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The use of terms like "true gamer" or "hardcore gamer" being used as marks of superiority over others has always reeked of arrogant elitism to me, and still reminds me of the days of internet Neckbeards throwing hissy fits over the Wii's success because it dared to appeal to people outside their demographic, or as they referred to the them, "filthy casuals".

It's something I sincerely hope gaming will someday outgrow.



I agree with most points apart from the 30FPS thing. Some people have a much more developed vision, and for them, 30FPS is irritatingly slow. I know one person who can't go to cinema due to this, 24FPS is just impossible for him without serious headaches. For people like these, 60FPS do matter a lot, as it means they don't have to take a break every couple minutes because the low framerate is literally giving them headaches.



curl-6 said:

The use of terms like "true gamer" or "hardcore gamer" being used as marks of superiority over others has always reeked of arrogant elitism to me, and still reminds me of the days of internet Neckbeards throwing hissy fits over the Wii's success because it dared to appeal to people outside their demographic, or as they referred to the them, "filthy casuals".

It's something I sincerely hope gaming will someday outgrow.

did you watch the video ?  everybody that owns a Nintendo platform is a "true gamer"

btw while the disdain for non-gamers buying into the Wii craze was pathetic, one complaint about the demographic proved true - the vast majority of them fell out of gaming very quickly and didn't add long term support to the industry/ neglected the Wii successor



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Lafiel said:
curl-6 said:

The use of terms like "true gamer" or "hardcore gamer" being used as marks of superiority over others has always reeked of arrogant elitism to me, and still reminds me of the days of internet Neckbeards throwing hissy fits over the Wii's success because it dared to appeal to people outside their demographic, or as they referred to the them, "filthy casuals".

It's something I sincerely hope gaming will someday outgrow.

did you watch the video ?  everybody that owns a Nintendo platform is a "true gamer"

btw while the disdain for non-gamers buying into the Wii craze was pathetic, one complaint about the demographic proved true - the vast majority of them fell out of gaming very quickly and didn't add long term support to the industry/ neglected the Wii successor

The casuals are still gaming, they just game mostly on mobile now as that's the sector that best caters to simple, convenient, pick-up-and-play experiences. The Wii U failed on its own merits, or lack thereof.



I tick a lot of your boxes on what a true gamer is, but I'm honestly not that invested in gatekeeping with regards to video games.



Also, millennial bashing is just comes across as being a bitter out of touch old fart at this point. I mean how old is this guy, if he grew up with the NES he's probably a millennial himself. 

Using the term "millennial" to refer to anyone young is wrong anyway, millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, the youngest of them are entering their mid 20s now, many are in their 30s, some are approaching 40. It seems like he's referring more to people born in the 2000s and the last years of the 90s, and they are Gen Z, not millennials.



I would agree with the criteria with one extra condition: you enjoy and regularly experience a broad range of genres. If you stick to only FPS, only strategy, only sports games, simulations, city management, etc, then you're not well versed enough for me to consider you a "true" gamer. There is a lot of fantastic stuff out there to experience, and no one game/genre has it all.

Doom? Great FPS experience. Sunless Sea? Wonderful setting and story telling. Europa Universalis 4? Amazing grand strategy and nation management.



60 FPS isn't even great anymore.