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colafitte said:
Too many people to answer..., so i'll give just one.

I was giving my own opinion about why i don't like Nintendo's direction so of course i was subjective, i was trying to be completely subjective because that was the point. There's not absolute reasonality as to why you prefer a kind of game or a kind of console. It's completely subjective.To everyone that likes it, congratulations. For me, not so much, and if for me the console doesn't appeal me enough, then there's automatically a reason to improve its appeal.

All of this came from my comment about how more than half the sales of Switch come from its 12-15 best selling games, meaning all the other hundreds games on the console represent the other half. I really don't think any 3rd party game has surpassed 2M sold on Switch, and there must not be too much games that have sold 1M or more either. It's not bad..., but it's not great either, or a "great story".

Yeah... Nintendo selling some of the most hotly demanded games in history... highly objectionable!

colafitte said:

As for Nintendo games being the best selling games on PS4 if they launched there too ...., they would sell well of course, but not that well as on a Switch. PS4 consumers don't buy double the games compared to Switch consumers. People on average buy 10 games per console, when you have so much variety to play, the share of games that people buy spreads too. If PS4 owners buy their FIFA, COD, GTA, then there's less space for the others. That's why Nintendo doesn't want 3rd party being too powerful on their consoles, it's an ecosystem that benefits their gaming lineup. Like someone said, people prefer to play its COD, FIFA, GTA on PS/XB and their Nintendo games on their exclusive hardware. They are both complementary.

You actually think Nintendo doesn't want third party being too powerful on their consoles? Where on Earth are you getting this from? That's a really silly thing to say.

colafitte said:


I guess i will have to accept i will never buy a Nintendo console then, it seems i'm not the target audience....Like i said, a shame, because I do like Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, Metroid....

If you want Nintendo's games then you are Nintendo's target audience, how can you logically say you are not?

colafitte said:
If only some 3rd party support was better, i would already bought one. For example i was playing right now Nier Automata and i find no reason why this game is not on a Switch, or Persona 5 either. I loved playing P4 Golden on PSV way more than P5 on a big TV. It would have been great on that console.

That's easy, the game wasn't developed for the Switch and Square decided not to port it after the Switch came out and there's many reasons why this could have happened: no available resources, no business justification, licensing issues, or maybe whoever engineered it did a piece of shit job. Why would Nier Hakunamatata be on the Switch? It's a longtime fact of the videogame industry, there's no console that has ALL games.

colafitte said:

Maybe some time in the future Nintendo will copy Microsoft and make a Nintendo Pass of sorts, so i will be able to play their games without paying the hardware and everyone will be happy......

That's enough for today. I was just trying to answer some direct questions, but it's pretty obvious this has run its course, so thanks to all and good night.

Maybe you can write up a business plan for their board of directors so they'll give you an executive job! I'm guessing you have some brilliant ideas to help them push that stock value up higher, right?



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

I looked back at the software date on Mar. 31 2019 to see what kind of legs these games have.


Switch First Party sales (in millions of units)

Game 3/31/2019 6/30/2019 Increase
Mario Maker 2 0 2.42 2.42
Mario Kart 8D 16.69 17.89 1.2
Super Smash Bros 13.81 14.73 0.92
Zelda: BotW 12.77 13.61 0.84
 NSMBU Deluxe 3.31 4.1 0.79
Super Mario Party 6.4 6.99 0.59
Mario Odyssey 14.44 14.94 0.5
Pokemon Let's Go 10.63 10.98 0.35
Splatoon 2 8.7 9.02 0.32
Mario Tennis Aces 2.64 2.75 0.11

Overall, Mario Kart 8D has the strongest legs, which is probably what we'd all expect.  Smash Bros and Zelda: BotW also have extremely impressive legs.  It is hard to say which of these games is the most impressive.  Smash Bros is ahead in total sales and will probably move ahead of Mario Odyssey soon to be the 2nd best selling Switch game.  Zelda also has amazingly strong legs considering it was a launch title and it almost sold as much as Smash Bros in the last quarter.  Neither Smash Bros or Zelda have ever had a game sell like these before.  These are truly stand-out, record-breaking, games.

Nintendo also has 5 games total that have already sold 10m+.  Given the current legs of both Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Party, I think it is fair to say that these will eventually break 10m as well.  Overall Nintendo has some amazing first party titles for it's first two years (plus a few months), and it still has several more to come.

Zelda's legs are just insane oh wow oh wow, at this pace Pokemon Let's Go will never surpass it, which means talent will win  

Switch's hardware sales are good and all but the way it sells software is something else.



Here's something that hasn't been mentioned yet: This FQ report is the first time that Nintendo has ever separated sales in Europe from the "Other" category. Switch only, though. Quarterly hardware shipments below:

Dec 2017 Mar 2018 Jun 2018 Sep 2018 Dec 2018 Mar 2019 Jun 2019
Japan 1.78 0.66 0.50 0.64 2.22 0.49 0.53
The Americas 2.82 1.20 0.67 1.32 3.80 1.08 0.82
Europe 2.03 0.59 0.31 0.88 2.77 0.58 0.50
Other 0.62 0.47 0.40 0.35 0.62 0.32 0.28
Total 7.24 2.92 1.88 3.19 9.42 2.47 2.13

Numbers come from here: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/number.html

I can't find data for the June and September quarters of 2017. They do have the data for the entire 2017 fiscal year (ending March 2018), though:

Japan: 3.78M
Americas: 5.94M
Europe: 3.79M
Other: 1.54M

And for the fiscal year of 2016 (which is just the March quarter because that's when Switch launched):

Japan: 0.60M
Americas: 1.20M
Europe: 0.76M
Other: 0.18M



StarDoor said:

Here's something that hasn't been mentioned yet: This FQ report is the first time that Nintendo has ever separated sales in Europe from the "Other" category. Switch only, though. Quarterly hardware shipments below:

Dec 2017 Mar 2018 Jun 2018 Sep 2018 Dec 2018 Mar 2019 Jun 2019
Japan 1.78 0.66 0.50 0.64 2.22 0.49 0.53
The Americas 2.82 1.20 0.67 1.32 3.80 1.08 0.82
Europe 2.03 0.59 0.31 0.88 2.77 0.58 0.50
Other 0.62 0.47 0.40 0.35 0.62 0.32 0.28
Total 7.24 2.92 1.88 3.19 9.42 2.47 2.13

Numbers come from here: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/number.html

I can't find data for the June and September quarters of 2017. They do have the data for the entire 2017 fiscal year (ending March 2018), though:

Japan: 3.78M
Americas: 5.94M
Europe: 3.79M
Other: 1.54M

And for the fiscal year of 2016 (which is just the March quarter because that's when Switch launched):

Japan: 0.60M
Americas: 1.20M
Europe: 0.76M
Other: 0.18M

So, this adds up to 9.59M Switch sold to Europe and 3.69M in Other.

Also notably, Switch seems to gain traction in Europe, but in the RoW, sales seem to be slowing down. Shipments are at least seriously down in the RoW YoY while Europe has an upwards trend there.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

I looked back at the software date on Mar. 31 2019 to see what kind of legs these games have.


Switch First Party sales (in millions of units)

Game 3/31/2019 6/30/2019 Increase
Mario Maker 2 0 2.42 2.42
Mario Kart 8D 16.69 17.89 1.2
Super Smash Bros 13.81 14.73 0.92
Zelda: BotW 12.77 13.61 0.84
 NSMBU Deluxe 3.31 4.1 0.79
Super Mario Party 6.4 6.99 0.59
Mario Odyssey 14.44 14.94 0.5
Pokemon Let's Go 10.63 10.98 0.35
Splatoon 2 8.7 9.02 0.32
Mario Tennis Aces 2.64 2.75 0.11

Overall, Mario Kart 8D has the strongest legs, which is probably what we'd all expect.  Smash Bros and Zelda: BotW also have extremely impressive legs.  It is hard to say which of these games is the most impressive.  Smash Bros is ahead in total sales and will probably move ahead of Mario Odyssey soon to be the 2nd best selling Switch game.  Zelda also has amazingly strong legs considering it was a launch title and it almost sold as much as Smash Bros in the last quarter.  Neither Smash Bros or Zelda have ever had a game sell like these before.  These are truly stand-out, record-breaking, games.

Nintendo also has 5 games total that have already sold 10m+.  Given the current legs of both Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Party, I think it is fair to say that these will eventually break 10m as well.  Overall Nintendo has some amazing first party titles for it's first two years (plus a few months), and it still has several more to come.

But, but... Publishers said that nobody wants to play singleplayer games anymore, only live services.

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Jumpin said:
colafitte said:
Too many people to answer..., so i'll give just one.

I was giving my own opinion about why i don't like Nintendo's direction so of course i was subjective, i was trying to be completely subjective because that was the point. There's not absolute reasonality as to why you prefer a kind of game or a kind of console. It's completely subjective.To everyone that likes it, congratulations. For me, not so much, and if for me the console doesn't appeal me enough, then there's automatically a reason to improve its appeal.

All of this came from my comment about how more than half the sales of Switch come from its 12-15 best selling games, meaning all the other hundreds games on the console represent the other half. I really don't think any 3rd party game has surpassed 2M sold on Switch, and there must not be too much games that have sold 1M or more either. It's not bad..., but it's not great either, or a "great story".

Yeah... Nintendo selling some of the most hotly demanded games in history... highly objectionable!

colafitte said:

As for Nintendo games being the best selling games on PS4 if they launched there too ...., they would sell well of course, but not that well as on a Switch. PS4 consumers don't buy double the games compared to Switch consumers. People on average buy 10 games per console, when you have so much variety to play, the share of games that people buy spreads too. If PS4 owners buy their FIFA, COD, GTA, then there's less space for the others. That's why Nintendo doesn't want 3rd party being too powerful on their consoles, it's an ecosystem that benefits their gaming lineup. Like someone said, people prefer to play its COD, FIFA, GTA on PS/XB and their Nintendo games on their exclusive hardware. They are both complementary.

You actually think Nintendo doesn't want third party being too powerful on their consoles? Where on Earth are you getting this from? That's a really silly thing to say.

colafitte said:


I guess i will have to accept i will never buy a Nintendo console then, it seems i'm not the target audience....Like i said, a shame, because I do like Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, Metroid....

If you want Nintendo's games then you are Nintendo's target audience, how can you logically say you are not?

colafitte said:
If only some 3rd party support was better, i would already bought one. For example i was playing right now Nier Automata and i find no reason why this game is not on a Switch, or Persona 5 either. I loved playing P4 Golden on PSV way more than P5 on a big TV. It would have been great on that console.

That's easy, the game wasn't developed for the Switch and Square decided not to port it after the Switch came out and there's many reasons why this could have happened: no available resources, no business justification, licensing issues, or maybe whoever engineered it did a piece of shit job. Why would Nier Hakunamatata be on the Switch? It's a longtime fact of the videogame industry, there's no console that has ALL games.

colafitte said:

Maybe some time in the future Nintendo will copy Microsoft and make a Nintendo Pass of sorts, so i will be able to play their games without paying the hardware and everyone will be happy......

That's enough for today. I was just trying to answer some direct questions, but it's pretty obvious this has run its course, so thanks to all and good night.

Maybe you can write up a business plan for their board of directors so they'll give you an executive job! I'm guessing you have some brilliant ideas to help them push that stock value up higher, right?

Why some of you get to so angry and personal about Nintendo all the time....good lord....

1st. I never EVER said selling good 1st games is bad. I said only selling 1st party games can be bad in the long run. When people try purposely to not understand something.....smh...

2nd. 3rd party support from the big guns of 3rd party developers is not a priority for Nintendo. That's OBVIOUS. Tell me when was the last time a big 3rd party game was announced first in a Nintendo Direct or E3, tell me... how much time Nintendo spends in their E3's talking about 3rd party games....

3rd. I want Zelda and Mario. There's no new DK or Metroid yet, and the new Pokemon game doesn't interest me at all... So to justify buying the console for the first two i need more games, simple as that. Besides, it was direct reaction from other posters that told me my interest wasn't the objective of Nintendo with Switch. It was a kind of sarcasm/joke...no bad feelings.

4th. It was a rethorical question. As you said, those are probably the reasons, but still, it would have been cool if those games where on Switch.

5th. I guess i have to thank you with this for believe in my possibilities as an executive job, and with Nintendo,!!! a dream job right?. I wish you the same luck....

Now seriously..., please calm down. If you don't want to hear NEVER the opinions of people with different tastes is as easy as ignoring me and never quote me. But i find interesting hearing some time other points of views to expand my perspective of things. But if this, in some way, annoys you ....i guess i'm sorry. I guess talking about these things in a gaming forum was a mistake for my part, what a rookie mistake...



StarDoor said:

Here's something that hasn't been mentioned yet: This FQ report is the first time that Nintendo has ever separated sales in Europe from the "Other" category. Switch only, though. Quarterly hardware shipments below:

Dec 2017 Mar 2018 Jun 2018 Sep 2018 Dec 2018 Mar 2019 Jun 2019
Japan 1.78 0.66 0.50 0.64 2.22 0.49 0.53
The Americas 2.82 1.20 0.67 1.32 3.80 1.08 0.82
Europe 2.03 0.59 0.31 0.88 2.77 0.58 0.50
Other 0.62 0.47 0.40 0.35 0.62 0.32 0.28
Total 7.24 2.92 1.88 3.19 9.42 2.47 2.13

Numbers come from here: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/number.html

I can't find data for the June and September quarters of 2017. They do have the data for the entire 2017 fiscal year (ending March 2018), though:

Japan: 3.78M
Americas: 5.94M
Europe: 3.79M
Other: 1.54M

And for the fiscal year of 2016 (which is just the March quarter because that's when Switch launched):

Japan: 0.60M
Americas: 1.20M
Europe: 0.76M
Other: 0.18M

Do they specify the country split between Europe and Other?

If I read this right then LTD numbers are

Japan 8.76m

Americas: 14.84m

Europe: 9.6m

Other: 3.69m

Europe is only a tiny bit ahead of Japan, and Japan might surpass Europe after the Switch lite is released.



looks like the Switch is up 4.4m on the 3DS launch aligned, that's about 13.5%
to reach 100m in shipments it must outdo the 3DS by about 30% (assuming 3DS shipments stop at ~77m)

@ Europe vs Japan discussion

what's very notable is that they shipped 62.46m Switch software units in Europe (6.5 SW/HW ratio), while only shipping 39.05m software units in Japan (4.46 SW/HW ratio) - in terms of ratio Europe is on par/slightly ahead of the americas (6.37 SW/HW ratio)

Last edited by Lafiel - on 31 July 2019

BOTW is almost building steam at this point!

I think overall, ok numbers. Nothing that shows any particular growth at the moment. The second half lineup though and the introduction of the Switch Light will at least keep the Switch consistent with the 18m projection. They will have to match their last Q3 which had Smash. Not sure Pokemon will have that impact past launch.



YNWA

I predicted that BotW would outsell that 3D Mario game. People said I was crazy. I was right