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thismeintiel on 30 July 2019
zorg1000 said:
thismeintiel said:

Again, this month would be the month we would see that, not last quarter. Which is probably why we saw the momentary out of stock for the Switch at a few places.  We also don't know if the the new Switch will replace all models at the start or if it will be a slow sprinkling region by region. I believe, so far, only Japan is confirmed.

We don't have actual numbers for every region, so it's impossible to tell if that is the case. I do know there is a limit to what stores will take. They won't take in shelves and shelves worth of product if they know they already have shelves and shelves of stock to sell. Especially in this slow time of year.

It makes no sense to have something like 2+ million units on shelves at the end of June if you are replacing and discontinuing that model within 2 months, they would slowly get stock down in Q1 so it can be gone by the end of Q2. And yes we do know, the new model is confirmed for America in mid-August, Europe in late August and Japan in early September.

We have enough data from major markets to know that PS4 is comfortably down YoY. I'm willing to listen to theories on why Sony dropped their FY forcast if Q1 wasnt overshipped and sell through wasnt lower than anticipated but all signs point to that being the case.

Who said anything about 2M on shelves? And even if it was 2M, which I highly doubt, with the Switch selling ~215K+ a week it would only take a month or so to get to a point where there would be shortages almost everywhere. Q1 is not when they would adjust shipments for a model coming in a month and a half in one region and around two months in the other regions. Especially one that sees no price cut.

Barkley said:
zorg1000 said:

Is PocketStation included?

Virtual Boy is a console, the PocketStation is a peripheral that required a PlayStation. There's far more merit to include the Virtual Boy, but I'm not going to include either. Not just because of the Virtual Boy's short life and terrible sales but:

"an increasing amount of company resources were being reallocated to Nintendo 64 development."

"The console was pushed to market in an unfinished state in 1995 to focus on Nintendo 64 development."

The Virtual Boy was essentially put out to die, and is the most extreme case of atypical sales.

Your bias is showing. You either include them all for all companies, or don't attempt at a comparison. It doesn't matter how poorly Nintendo handled its release, it was a main console they released. You can't discount it because it hurts the average.



 

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Keiji on 30 July 2019

Congratulation !
Necrobump is coming faster than I thought



COKTOE on 30 July 2019
CGI-Quality said:
colafitte said:

If there has been anything remotely close to a consensus here is that most of us expect 130M sold in the end for PS4. Nobody seems to disagree on that...

So boringly predictable is Playstation 4???

Going back through some threads, you'd be surprised. 

I remember "won't hit 100 million" posts from as recently as fall 2017. Even who made them.

We all make mistakes though!



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Barkley on 30 July 2019
thismeintiel said:
Barkley said:

Virtual Boy is a console, the PocketStation is a peripheral that required a PlayStation. There's far more merit to include the Virtual Boy, but I'm not going to include either. Not just because of the Virtual Boy's short life and terrible sales but:

"an increasing amount of company resources were being reallocated to Nintendo 64 development."

"The console was pushed to market in an unfinished state in 1995 to focus on Nintendo 64 development."

The Virtual Boy was essentially put out to die, and is the most extreme case of atypical sales.

Your bias is showing. You either include them all for all companies, or don't attempt at a comparison. It doesn't matter how poorly Nintendo handled its release, it was a main console they released. You can't discount it because it hurts the average.

That you'd call me biased towards nintendo over playstation is hillarious and shows your ignorance on the matter. You clearly don't know me or my posts. Virtual Boy is a gigantic anomaly for multiple reasons, so I chose not to include it. This wasn't to "make nintendo look good". If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have made the post in the first place.

Barkley said:

Ye and even including handhelds, 3 of the top 5 will be PlayStation. They have a very consistent track record of success. Their average sales for a console is 90.6m, that's including the Vita. No other company can say that.

Average PlayStation sales - 90.6m (Over 6 systems)
Average Nintendo Sales - 67.93m (Over 11 systems) (Not including virtual boy)
Average Xbox Sales - 51.5m (Over 3 systems)

Hell PlayStation only have one system that didn't make it into the Top 10.

^ Makes this post, gets accused of being biased against PlayStation/Towards Nintendo. smfh.



Signalstar on 30 July 2019

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Barkley on 30 July 2019
trunkswd said:

Following adjustments PS4 sales estimates on VGChartz are now at 97,698,942 units for the end of June. That would put units on store shelves and on way to stores at 2.3 million.

Previously was at 96,901,137 for 29th June, so an adjustment up of 797k!

Which means the YoY drop has gone from -24.7% to just -13.4%! Not as big of a drop off as we thought. (I'm assuming all the adjustments were fore weeks in 2019.)



zorg1000 on 30 July 2019
trunkswd said:

Following adjustments PS4 sales estimates on VGChartz are now at 97,698,942 units for the end of June. That would put units on store shelves and on way to stores at 2.3 million.

Did it get further adjusted? Front page now shows 98.1 million.



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zorg1000 on 30 July 2019
trunkswd said:
zorg1000 said:

Did it get further adjusted? Front page now shows 98.1 million.

Figures I posted were for end of June. Front page is through July 13. 

Ya I had a brain fart lol



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estebxx on 30 July 2019
colafitte said:
Wow....3'2M shipped this quarter and better software sales than last year. I remember saying at the beginning of the year that i expected a great Feb-May performance due to software lineup. VGC numbers seemed to prove me wrong until now but in the end it's what it happened.

But the biggest milestone and the one that is going to be difficult to surpass by any other console is the "Fastest console to reach 100M shipped". Faster than Wii and PS2....., without any official and definitve price cuts in recent years.....That's super impressive. This proves too that US and JP are less and less relevant for Sony as times goes on. Playstation brand has to be muuuuuuuuuch more powerful than the competition eveywhere else.

And there's still people doubting Sony and the future of the Playstation brand.......

Well in my country its by far more popular than the other two, we even use the word "Play" instead of video games.



colafitte on 30 July 2019
CGI-Quality said:
colafitte said:

If there has been anything remotely close to a consensus here is that most of us expect 130M sold in the end for PS4. Nobody seems to disagree on that...

So boringly predictable is Playstation 4???

Going back through some threads, you'd be surprised. 

Damn it CGI..., you are crushing my dreams of a peaceful and universal agreement on something relating to console gaming!! .

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