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It only took  Phil Spencer 6 years to realize that?👏👏👏👏👏.

That guy is really lucky to work for a company like Microsoft as Sony or Nintendo would have never let their game studios being managed so poorly like this, for a whole console cycle.



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Need to come up with better nickname. Papa reminds me of disgraced former Papa John's CEO that went down after a racial slur during media training conference.



eva01beserk said:

trying your hardest to be as condescending as possible I see.

Didn't you literally just respond to someones post with laughing gifs, and you're now complaining about someone being condescending? lol


eva01beserk said: But I did read your arguments with Donferrari

Oh, nice! Can you please tell your posts? They don't seem to know.

eva01beserk said: I remember how he posted interviews where he said MS stated that they need to do better and you right out dismissed them. But I see your not even trying anymore. so whats the point.

No, he didn't say Microsoft was trying to say they "need to do better". He said Microsoft stated SP games are dead. There's a large difference. Why would I be dismissive about the idea that Microsoft needs to do better with their games, I literally made this thread that you're posting in, which features... you guess it, an interview where Phil Spencer talks about doing a better job with games. LOL



What Xbox has to mean according to Microsoft and what it actually is are two different things.



LudicrousSpeed said:
eva01beserk said: I remember how he posted interviews where he said MS stated that they need to do better and you right out dismissed them. But I see your not even trying anymore. so whats the point.

No, he didn't say Microsoft was trying to say they "need to do better". He said Microsoft stated SP games are dead. There's a large difference. Why would I be dismissive about the idea that Microsoft needs to do better with their games, I literally made this thread that you're posting in, which features... you guess it, an interview where Phil Spencer talks about doing a better job with games. LOL

Is this why the Switch and PS4 are doing so bad...?



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LivingMetal said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

No, he didn't say Microsoft was trying to say they "need to do better". He said Microsoft stated SP games are dead. There's a large difference. Why would I be dismissive about the idea that Microsoft needs to do better with their games, I literally made this thread that you're posting in, which features... you guess it, an interview where Phil Spencer talks about doing a better job with games. LOL

Is this why the Switch and PS4 are doing so bad...?

They didn’t actually say anything close to SP games being dead 👍



LudicrousSpeed said:
eva01beserk said:

You should really stop. you are the only one saying that we think MS has no SP games or that they think its dead. Thats an obvious straw man. We keep telling you, a game can have SP, but the focus of it is the MP. Most games have both, that was also said to you. Everyone knows you can play all the games you listed in SP. The argument is still the focus of the game, and as much as you dont want to admit it, the majority of MS games are MP focused, players want that wich is why they play that part of the game most and MS listens and builds upon it.

lol, sweetie, you jumped into a conversation I was having with someone else, and they very much were claiming that Microsoft thinks SP gaming is dead. Said it multiple times, even tried to link to interviews where they thought Microsoft was saying SP is dead. If you’re going to insert yourself into a “debate” if you will, try to follow along.

So removing that nonsense, what we are left with is the same crap the other guy was trying to cling to, something subjective like the “focus” of a game. Something impossible to quantify. I’ve already debunked this argument when the other guy tried it, again, try to keep up. Basically on one side you have a gamer who has experienced all of these games almost entirely in single player, and on the other side you have people claiming the games are all MP focused.

Try maybe playing these games? You act as if they have bare bones SP designed to get you into MP or something. And please find another thing to cling to besides time spent on the game. MP will almost always be played more than SP, it doesn’t make the SP any less important. Even Uncharted and Last of Us, MP users will play the game way way way more than SP users. I guess Uncharted and LoU are MP focused? Wow, didn’t know that. 

You’re trying to say Forza is a yearly release that barely updates, you do realize there are essentially two radically different racing franchises, Motorsports and Horizon, that share the Forza name? You’re only revealing how ignorant you are with these comments. Horizon is not MP focused. If anything it’s social focused. Think Driveclub but way better implementation of social aspects. The idea is to race and share and compete together and you can do all without ever playing a second of actual online MP. I should know, I’ve actually done it. But I know, I know, you have some preconceived notions, fake numbers, and game ignorance that trumps reality lol.

Sorry if we cross out your experience of the game as meaning it is SP or MP focused. If we were to take your experience in consideration Sony games would mainly be very very very bad and MS would be great games. You are very much going on the opposite direction of what is the majority of the gaming community consensus. And you being dismissive and condescending certainly doesn't make you a console warrior.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

“going against the majority of the gaming consensus”

More unquantifiable nonsense lol.

My opinion on Sony games or MS games means literally 0 when it comes to whether these games have single player or not. Hope that helps.



@LudicrousSpeed
But your personal take is quantifiable? Ok.



It takes genuine talent to see greatness in yourself despite your absence of genuine talent.

A game having a full fledged SP offering isn’t really a matter of “personal take”, it either does or it doesn’t lol