I bet a lot of people would like port of some of the gems on WiiU, let's hope Nintendo put the money out to some good porters, like Sanzaru, and get those games on the platform.

You’re playing chess while they are playing checkers. This second class nonsense is born purely out of console war mentality. Tit for tat doesn’t apply here. As an Xbox gamer I don’t need anything from MS allowing Banjo in Smash or Cuphead on Switch. I’ve played Cuphead and Halo already. MS has been doing this for years already with games going to PC. More revenue for Xbox is never a bad thing if you like to use Xbox.

I am rather stunned at Nintendo with the Switch.  I don't understand why Pikmin 3, Mario 3D World, Wind Waker HD and Twilight HD haven't been ported.  Though to be fair, I am stunned they haven't done Wii HD ports of Metroid Trilogy, Pikmin and Galaxy 1/2.  Frankly, Nintendo baffles me.  I love their games, but their business decisions are odd as ****.

Well there is limited resources in the world. Perhaps their strategy have indicated more gain doing different actions.

But if I was on the helm I would have contracted the port of these games to release like one every 2 or 3 months between the major new games.

Frankly, if I were at the helm, I would buy Bluepoint. It would be amazing to give Bluepoint freedom to remaster Zelda, Mario World, Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Mario 64, Ocarina, Majora, Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, Sunshine, Galaxy 1/2, Prime 1-3, and so many more games. I would pay a lot of money for a great remaster of Link to the Past.  Nintendo has the most robust classic game collection, they should be doing so much more with them.

I was waiting for that lazy response to come.

I dont believe MS views Switch as a direct competior, Nintendo has even been open to crossplay, Xbox Live and potentially other MS services. Taking all that into consideration, I think older Halo, Gears and maybe even a Forza would be fine on Switch.

Playstation is a more direct competitor, they appeal to similar audiences and they share popular core games. Therefore Switch support makes more sense than PS4 support. But games not considered important to Xbox arguably should be on Playstation. I bet Cuphead would have been on PS4 if they could get Xbox Live on there.

Yeah, console war people think Xbox users are suffering because other platforms may have access to some MS games. Its incredibly dumb logic.

If I argue thats extra revenue for more software. Then it becomes an argument about ALL MS GAMES being multiplat. Its obvious thought goes into porting decisions made by MS, but when you have an agenda you just pretend to be stupid.

We do know why Sony wouldn't put XBL on PS4 and probably won't also for PS5.

Sure PS4 and X1 are direct competitors, still if talking about were they would get more revenue on the games it would be on PS4.

PC would be an even more dire competitor to X1 since people already having a PC when MS games go there have no reason to choose the console version, still that is the first place they gone.

And we are talking about port of older games. So hardly one would expect someone to decide to buy PS4 instead of X1 because Halo 1 launched on PS4 when if they want to play any other Halo they would need to have X1. Most gamers buy consoles to play the most current games and not the older ones. Reason why BC have been of very little impact to the sales of consoles so far, also reason why people buying new consoles will usually buy more recent games than the older ones on that console. Sure all of these points have exception, but as general occuring that is how it goes.

- Again, it's not a one way deal. Software is traded for an equal recompense is revenue and exposure. Both MS and Nintendo benefit, literally nobody loses.

- Playstation is a direct competitor to Xbox, so putting Halo on PS probably isn't something MS would be inclined to do. Unless they decide they are abandoning the console business altogether; if it comes comes to that, then yes, they should absolutely put Halo on PS. 

- Yes, sometimes they do. It was the heads of multimillion dollar companies that thought the Wii U, Vita, and the Virtual Boy were good ideas.

I like how we've had this topic going on for weeks on end, and the same result is "trade games to one system, but only get money and nothing else in return".

I mean, of course you're going to want to make money if you give the games over, that's more or less the absolute and only objective outcome of making a deal like that. The part where you go "no, you give me your games, but I won't give you mine, because borked logic", is where the one way street part comes in, and no, that's not objective logic either, it's fully opinion based.

If you find Y box a direc competitor, then you should honestly be looking at the insane giant of a monster, that is mobile, that has more users, makes the most money and is just gaining far more popularity and showing no signs of stopping. You know, what some console users want in regards to their system of choice. I mean, you do want it to be a sucesss, you do want hundreds of millions to adopt and use the device, as well as wanting it to make the most money, right?. Because if not, you're on the wrong forum, the wrong planet, and you're excusing one player in the game, because it's of a device you don't care for.

THis is coming from a guy who absolutely loathes mobile gaming, but I know damn well that it is the top dog, the bread winner of this entire industry, and that is has most definitely given influence to many devs,m in how they design their games and who to approach in terms of marketing/pandering to. The latest Stronghold game looks like a sodding mobile game through and through, all simpified, low poly etc. To claim the king of all platforms isn't influeicing the other systems is insane. THey are a competitor, and even if the big 3 refuse to see it that way, that is their bed to make and lie in, that is their problem, and it is their followers problem to deal with, when it's far too late as well, because I can see them as a competitor, due to the amount of influence and devs it's got on board.

Shitty MTX games, yeah, but shiut tons of money, shit tons of users, shit tons of ads, shit tons of recognition and casuals talking about said games on a daily basis. You cannot ignore mobile and claim "it's nothing compared to Nintendo", because it fucking is, hence why they've decided to get into that market, because that is actually where the money is really at. If they decided to ignore it for decades more, they would have lost out in the end. Even MS and Sony are into that market, albeit in various ways.

I'm getting so very tired of this approach and belief, that one platform isn't magically a competitor to the other, when even Sony stated a few years back before the PS4P released, that they wanted PC gamers to move to their new refresh system, that they saw that as a means to take some users away from another platform opposite to theirs. Nintendo's own advertising clearly shows that they want the kids out and about, showing off their Switch device, even trying to get parents in on it, just like they did with the Wii, only back then they had granny and Grandpa's going for it as well.

Sony saw PS4P as a means of luring some PC gamers away, which by default, has them seeing PC as a competitor that they want to court them and have them game on their platform instead. Nintendo uses their mobile games as a means to get you to game on their Switch system as well, meaning they don't want you to game on your phone, hence why you get a small bite sized portion of Nintendo themed games on there, instead of the whole damn catalogue of older titles on there.

The mobile sector is definitely a competitor to all 3 of them, even PC, even in terms of users, revenue, profits and devs on board, so no, trying to lie about it to suit this one way street mantra, isn't going to do anything.

Can we please end this thread?, because if I so much as hear the same excuse or "not a competitor" muttered one more time, I'm just going to get all kinds of nasty, because I loathe ignorance and a narrow minded mindset in terms of industry knowledge. If there's nothing more to actually add to the topic, that isn't the same answer from 2 weeks ago, then let it die.