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Best Spider-Man movies?

Spider-Man (2002) Trilogy 19 51.35%
 
Amazing Spider-Man Duology 3 8.11%
 
Spider-Man Home Duology 15 40.54%
 
Total:37
mZuzek said:
The best Spider-Man movie isn't in your poll.

Won't read your OP, though, because I don't want spoilers, but I don't exactly disagree with the thread title - I think it's lame to have a full Spider-Man trilogy in high school, and that they should move beyond it by the second or third movie, which from what I understand isn't happening.

The poll clearly says Best Spiderman Movies< as in the 3 different Spiderman series not by individual movie.

But yeah it probably won't happen anytime soon because Sony prefers to play it safe and retell the same story over and over with different actors, minor changes and different villains and the fans seem to eat them right up.



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shikamaru317 said:

Spider-Man died for me movie wise when Spider-Man 4 got cancelled. Tried to watch the first reboot they did with Andrew Garfield and hated it. Didn't even bother watching Tom Holland Spider-Man, I've heard enough about it and seen enough clips of it on Youtube to know I won't like it.

I admit that i enjoyed Far From Home a lot more than Homecoming and in some ways Spider-Man is more true to the comics in this series but i don't like it either it's like the new Star Wars films to me very dumbed down, political and too comedic.



"Because "Spider-Man doesn't want to be Spider-Man just Peter Parker" again"

That's literally one of the most basic elements of the "Spider-Man" comic books. That was the overriding theme for decades. A hero who doesn't want to be a hero but wrestles constantly with the words of his uncle, that with great power comes great responsibility. That's Spider-Man.



pokoko said:
"Because "Spider-Man doesn't want to be Spider-Man just Peter Parker" again"

That's literally one of the most basic elements of the "Spider-Man" comic books. That was the overriding theme for decades. A hero who doesn't want to be a hero but wrestles constantly with the words of his uncle, that with great power comes great responsibility. That's Spider-Man.

And what happens at the end? He accepts his responsibility and understands that he's partly to blame for his uncle's death and moves on as a Spider-Man.



This current Spider-Man was doomed by making him an Iron Man fanboy. It also doesn't help that he spent half the last movie forgetting the "With great power" motto. "The world's gonna blow up? Dude, that's gonna cut into my vacation."

Gimme a break. Holland is just a faint shadow of Maguire's take.

I'm also annoyed that we can't get an awesome Mary Jane after all these years. Mary Jane is like the Lex Luthor of Marvel. They keep sending her further and further away from her character when they never portrayed her correctly in the first place. Where's my gorgeous flighty redhead who parties as a front to hide her, intimacy issues, insecurities, and fears? We've never even approached a true adaptation of the character in the movies and it's SO crazy because Mary Jane would pop on film if they got the right actress for it.

Instead we're stuck with a faux MJ who is exactly the opposite.



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There you go.

When they restart a superhero series, there are certain integral elements to the character that they usually don't want to skip. In those cases it's more about how each iteration of the character deals with it.

Would I want a more adult Peter Parker? Maybe, but at the same time I don't have any problem finding entertainment in teenage Peter's life, generally speaking. There are of course certain parts of it that may be more interestingly written than others.

And yeah, any time a female character excels in something over others, it's a hidden political statement. Whenever a male character does, same thing.
Here's the most blatant hidden (not so hidden) political statement from Marvel.

That men are pigs.

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Considering how incredibly well received the Home "duology" is in terms of both critical and commercial success, i'd absolutely question your criteria of "terrible writing", cause its clearly not the case.

Either way I dont care, the best version of the character IMO is the high schooler. I dont want to see the married Peter Parker.



Hiku said:

When they restart a superhero series, there are certain integral elements to the character that they usually don't want to skip. In those cases it's more about how each iteration of the character deals with it.

This is the third live action iteration of Spiderman that literally explores the same themes as the first but with worse actors and more comedy thats pretty much it.

That men are pigs.

...uhh... Yeah I guess?  even without the sarcasm nobody would get offended by that men don't need to be empowered for the sake of being empowered



Jpcc86 said:

Considering how incredibly well received the Home "duology" is in terms of both critical and commercial success, i'd absolutely question your criteria of "terrible writing", cause its clearly not the case.

Either way I dont care, the best version of the character IMO is the high schooler. I dont want to see the married Peter Parker.

Star Wars Sequels are both well received critically and commercially, do the fans care about that? Nope.

If you want terrible writing then read the Spiderman comics.



NightlyPoe said:
This current Spider-Man was doomed by making him an Iron Man fanboy. It also doesn't help that he spent half the last movie forgetting the "With great power" motto. "The world's gonna blow up? Dude, that's gonna cut into my vacation."

Gimme a break. Holland is just a faint shadow of Maguire's take.

I'm also annoyed that we can't get an awesome Mary Jane after all these years. Mary Jane is like the Lex Luthor of Marvel. They keep sending her further and further away from her character when they never portrayed her correctly in the first place. Where's my gorgeous flighty redhead who parties as a front to hide her, intimacy issues, insecurities, and fears? We've never even approached a true adaptation of the character in the movies and it's SO crazy because Mary Jane would pop on film if they got the right actress for it.

Instead we're stuck with a faux MJ who is exactly the opposite.

Agreed