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MS Q4 report: Xbox hardware down 48% YOY

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Not surprising, the generation is winding down and Microsoft have already announced a next gen machine and a release date. I wouldn't be shocked to see PS4 drop too.



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And some people were worried about Xbox One dragging Scarlett potential down because MS said that Xbox One will be supported for at least first two years after Scarlett launch. I don’t see it happening. Yeah, maybe MS themselves will still continue to support Xbox One, but I’m almost sure that third party publishers will drop it’s support pretty early.

hunter_alien said:
Said this before, and I am going to tell it again. If MS does not manage to get their shit together next-gen, the Xbox brand is good as dead and will follow Nokia and Windows (for mobile) into the grave. No amount of second-rate studio purchase will mend the damage that was done in the past 7-8 years.

Doubt that Xbox brand will be dead anytime soon otherwise Microsoft wouldn’t have been spending money on buying these studios, but unfortunately it seems clear that they aren interested in making dedicated console hardware anymore. So most likely they will release Scarlett and then make the decision about continuing making hardware or not based on how it performs. 



 

Dulfite said:
Yeah but how much is their Windows store sales up? I went from having no access to their games (I don't own nor wish to own an Xbox) to having the PC xbox pass (which I intend on keeping after the promotional period). They are now getting money from me when they weren't before.

Games & services, included that stuff.
Its down 3%? and overall all gameing related was down 10%.

So its down compaired to last year.
plus with how many people upgraded gamepass for 1$ and did the 3year trick.... it ll be awhile before things change I suspect.
basically it looks like haveing people buy games at full price is the most profitable way to go, if you can get them to do so.



No surprise here. Sony Will report drop to.
Its time for the switch to Shine, at least for another year.



Libi said:
No surprise here. Sony Will report drop to.
Its time for the switch to Shine, at least for another year.

True.... sony will probably anounce PS4 dropped like 20-25%, soon. 
Then at some point (probably this year) do a perm price cut, and see sales go back up.

Xbox hardware dropping ~50% when next gen is still 1,5year away..... sales are gonna slow to a crawl before then.




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hunter_alien said:
Said this before, and I am going to tell it again. If MS does not manage to get their shit together next-gen, the Xbox brand is good as dead and will follow Nokia and Windows (for mobile) into the grave. No amount of second-rate studio purchase will mend the damage that was done in the past 7-8 years.

Yeah but at this point is getting silly, the original xbox lost a ton of money so they will go out of the console business, early years of Xbox 360 RROD made them lose a lot of money they will cancel the X360 soon it is the next dreamcast, end of X360 sure they made some money with Kinect but lost the hardcore gamers next xbox is the last one, Early xbox one years, it is selling horrible and the WiiU is going to outsell it....yup their will be no new console.  At some point you probably be right but it seems the money them make is not from the console but with GOLD/Gamepass and the 15 studios makes the future interesting atleast especially if more studios will join.






Bofferbrauer2 said:
BraLoD said:
Well, next gen is coming soon.

probably can't come soon enough for them at this rate

Maybe, maybe not.

They might take an even bigger beating next gen.

It's their only chance of changing things, tho.



Zombie9ers said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I would agree if Scarlett were releasing this year.  Since it's releasing next year, Microsoft is mostly out of the console business until late 2020.  Sony kind of made the same mistake though.  PS4 sales are plummeting.  

This is why I originally thought both Microsoft and Sony would release their next consoles this year.  That is the smartest strategy.  Instead they are just letting Switch dominate the marketplace for all of 2019 and 2020.

The PS4 has been doing just fine - keeping pace worldwide with the Switch in it's 6th year.  I think people are severely underestimating the power of a permanent PS4 price drop - which I think is coming real soon just in time for the holidays.  Look at what the PS4 just did on Prime Day - all models lit up the Amazon charts.  When the PS4 was $199 the previous 2 Black Fridays - Sony couldn't ship enough to keep up with demand.  If they stock up this holiday season, have a decent bundle (God of War, Spider-Man, Horizon: Zero Dawn combos) - along with an extended $199 price point - it will sell boatloads in Q4 all the way through to PS5 release.

Sony already profited what they could, they should really give it a price cut at least until September end.

I know they needed these kind of profits this gen, but it's time to move on, PS5 is coming in just a bit more than 1 year, let the PS4 userbase increase as much as possible before it.



Not surprising but further proof next gen can't come sooner for Xbox. And if that doesn't work out, they may become the next Sega. Can you imagine Halo games releasing on PlayStation?



the brand at this point is useless