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Forums - Sales Discussion - MS Q4 report: Xbox hardware down 48% YOY

No surprise here. Sony Will report drop to.
Its time for the switch to Shine, at least for another year.



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Libi said:
No surprise here. Sony Will report drop to.
Its time for the switch to Shine, at least for another year.

True.... sony will probably anounce PS4 dropped like 20-25%, soon. 
Then at some point (probably this year) do a perm price cut, and see sales go back up.

Xbox hardware dropping ~50% when next gen is still 1,5year away..... sales are gonna slow to a crawl before then.




hunter_alien said:
Said this before, and I am going to tell it again. If MS does not manage to get their shit together next-gen, the Xbox brand is good as dead and will follow Nokia and Windows (for mobile) into the grave. No amount of second-rate studio purchase will mend the damage that was done in the past 7-8 years.

Yeah but at this point is getting silly, the original xbox lost a ton of money so they will go out of the console business, early years of Xbox 360 RROD made them lose a lot of money they will cancel the X360 soon it is the next dreamcast, end of X360 sure they made some money with Kinect but lost the hardcore gamers next xbox is the last one, Early xbox one years, it is selling horrible and the WiiU is going to outsell it....yup their will be no new console.  At some point you probably be right but it seems the money them make is not from the console but with GOLD/Gamepass and the 15 studios makes the future interesting atleast especially if more studios will join.






Not surprising but further proof next gen can't come sooner for Xbox. And if that doesn't work out, they may become the next Sega. Can you imagine Halo games releasing on PlayStation?



the brand at this point is useless



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I think Next gen Will be the last one, at least the way we are used to. The industry is moving to stream, even if we dont like it.
Microsoft knows that probably better than anyone else in the business and they are landing the foundations to dominate the streaming market.



LudicrousSpeed said:
flashfire926 said:
Seems in line with what you would expect at the end of the console generation.

Yep, especially from the lowest selling console of that generation.

MS numbers as a whole are just stupid good, and they have to be happy about the increase in services revenue and MAU. 

The Xbox One is not the lowest selling console of the generation...



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
flashfire926 said:
Seems in line with what you would expect at the end of the console generation.

I would agree if Scarlett were releasing this year.  Since it's releasing next year, Microsoft is mostly out of the console business until late 2020.

Yeah, that's my thought too, I can see this being "normal" if Scarlet was releasing this holiday season, but it's still a year and a half away.

That's a long arse time when weekly sales have already dropped to 40k. They won't so much be limping over the finish line as crawling over it.

Still, as transitions like Wii U to Switch, Gamecube to Wii, and Xbox to 360 prove, it's entirely possible to go from a failed console to a successful one. That said, it's going to be an uphill battle convincing gamers that Scarlet is a good investment. I wish them luck; competition is good for the consumer.



derpysquirtle64 said:

And some people were worried about Xbox One dragging Scarlett potential down because MS said that Xbox One will be supported for at least first two years after Scarlett launch. I don’t see it happening. Yeah, maybe MS themselves will still continue to support Xbox One, but I’m almost sure that third party publishers will drop it’s support pretty early.

Really I highly doubt even MS will support it two years from the Scarlet's launch.  Maybe 6 months to a year.  I'm sure they'll put xCloud on it and count that as support.

The_Liquid_Laser said:
JRPGfan said:

Sony are just being stubborn in not doing a perm price cut already.
Look at what happend with "amazon prime" day/week thingy.... sales went berzerk, and it was like 6 x PS4 sku's above any Switch model.

Theres still demand for PS4's.... Sony just need to cut prices.

Also games (exclusives):
MediEvil
DeathStranding
Shenmue III
Concrete Genie
Dreams
Final Fantasy VIIR
Wild
Ghost of Tsushima
Last of Us - Part 2
(we just had Judgement)

+ the PSVR titles.

Edit:
This is the year, if sony were smart they would do a perm price cut.
I honestly feel like they shoulda done one already by now.

Yeah, I do think they need a permanent price cut.  Not sure what they're pricing strategy is at this point, but I was just looking at PS3 price cuts.  Once it went down to $299, it stayed that way until it got a cut to $269 3 years later.  That is not much of a cut.  

If they plan on having a similar pricing strategy for PS4, then I wouldn't count on price cuts driving sales up.

The PS3 was too expensive, due to custom chips, to make to drop the price much more.  The PS4 doesn't have that problem.  Right now, Sony is probably just making as much profit as they can on the PS4 since its sales are still alright, offsetting PS5's R&D.  I have no doubt they will be cut this holiday season permanently.  The only question is by how much.  They could do the full $100 drop to $199.  However, I think they will only drop to $249, since there is still demand at that price and continue with their $199 BF week deals.  $199 will most likely come next year with the launch of the PS5.



2019 would have been a better year for XB2 imo